The song for this chapter is Season of Love by Shiny Toy Guns
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I was sitting in the school cafe earlier today, minding my own business and getting some writing done, when I overheard a conversation at the table next to me that went something like this:
Guy 1: Jonas Brothers fangirls are the creepiest girls ever. What is with them?
Guy 2: No man, the Jonas Brothers fangirls are nothing compared to TWILIGHTERS.
-all guys murmur in unified agreement-
Guy 3: Yeah, they’re all way crazy over Edward Cullen.
-guys go silent-
Guy 2: Who’s Edward Cullen?
Guy 3, stammering: Oh, I, uh, I, uh, I read the first few pages. My sister had it. Uh. Uh.
Niccceeee. You don’t even see Edward’s name until page 20. Yet another closet TwilightGuy I’m guessing 😀
Anyhows, I managed to make it home in one piece in this chilling weather, and lo and behold Eclipse was here waiting for my return. Where I left off, Bella was with Jacob, watching the preparations for the war against the young vampires.
Oh Edward Cullen, what a poet. At the moment, I’m studying poetry as part of my English studies, so when I read lines like this:
“Listen to your heart fly,” he murmured. “It’s fluttering like a hummingbird’s wings. […]”
I’m immediately reminded of poetry. There’s a musical quality to the way that Edward speaks. I’m sure everyone who’s read the books noticed this: he never just says:
“Oh look,” he huffed, “your heart’s beating. Whoop-de-doo.”
He’s got a special way of talking, which is easily reminiscent of the literature from the times when he was born. Again, this is something that sets Edward apart: he’s not trying to be like every other, normal guy. He’s trying to be different, to really show Bella that she means the world to him.
As usual, I chuckled at a very awkward-to-be-chuckling-at line:
“But that will always be what I want most, won’t it?” I challenged. “Blood, blood, and more blood!”
It’s striking to me, just how much the marriage means to Edward; as if anything big will change between them, since he is obviously dedicated to her, and she can’t bear the thought of leaving him. But there’s a depth to it, a commitment that Edward is seeking to make, in a very human way that one would think doesn’t apply to vampires. But I’m curious as to Edward’s reason. He can’t be simply doing this and so adamant about an actual marriage just because he is from the early 1900’s: it’s been so long since then, and qualms about societal norms would have vanished into his memory. After all, back in those days, anything resembling vampires was probably considered demonic anyway.
I get the feeling, though, that Edward has many reasons for wanting this: for even though it is obvious that he loves Bella, and his love will not change after they are married, he wants an actual, human connection between them: something normal, that binds them together by actual vows. He sees being a vampire as being ‘tainted’, and I feel that he sees his eternity with Bella as so important, he does not want their commitment to be built upon this tainted foundation, but rather upon a human marriage: one with a soul. After all, Edward and Bella are talking about forever in far more sense of the word than other humans being wed: theirs is a real and literal forever.
I noticed a sudden slew of emails the past few days, most of them telling me oh-how-much they wanted to hear my opinions on Chapter 20. This, as usual, was followed by a bunch of HA-HA-HA-ha-ha’s, which caused me a considerable amount of uncomfortable suspense for what I was going to find. Rest assured, I reacted in exactly the way my readers expected:
Ahem. Anyhow, we were back at the vampires and werewolves fighting something in some sort of a bloody battle. Yes, that’s the part I was reading.
I greatly enjoyed reading the comments on the last chapter post: people have so many different opinions on Jacob. But I feel I should clear it up somewhat and say that I don’t absolutely detest Jacob to his very core. It’s just sometimes, I find it annoying how he’s trying to get between Edward and Bella. I, for one, am a somewhat selfish guy. It would be very hard for me to deal with my girlfriend having a Jacob, and I might not even be able to deal with it at all. I would see it as Bella not being loyal to me, and hanging on to an alternative resort in case things ‘don’t work out’. But if there is such a large probability of things ‘not working out’ that she’s keeping this guy hanging on, then that would make me think that what we have isn’t as strong as I thought. I respect Edward even more, because he can actually bring himself to at least seem comfortable with Bella around Jacob so often.
I realize that the vast majority of my readers are girls, and I don’t know how to put this in a way that everyone will understand; since human emotions and feelings cross such a vast landscape, it is impossible to pin any one person down and say that they are the model for all guys. But I know that I would never be able to handle being Edward, if my girlfriend kept Jacob — even the bracelet from him would be enough for me to feel hurt. Similarly, I would never, ever be able to be a Jacob: this guy who keeps hanging around, pining away at somebody else’s girl, when she really truly wants to be with Edward. I don’t see myself, or any guy who has a decent sense of respect, being happy like that.
But the reason I don’t hate Jacob, through all this, is because he is, or at least seems to be, genuinely well-intentioned. It’s back to the abusive boyfriend situation I used as an example a few posts back: if Jacob seriously thinks that Bella staying with Edward is dangerous to her, then he has good reason to try and get her away. In fact, it’s best for him to do it. But the fact we all know is that Edward is unlike the rest of his kind, and wouldn’t let anything cause him to hurt Bella: as evidenced even more so by the bedroom episode that unfolded in this chapter 😀
Question for the comments: I’m curious to know, due to the bunch of emails I’ve gotten, who you think should play Aro in the New Moon film.
——NOTES——
– There have been additions to the FAQ page.
– The song is from the new Shiny Toy Guns album
– Followers of my Twitter will recall a conversation about ninjas earlier. The Twilight conversation I wrote about in this post came immediately afterwards from the same group 😀
275 Responses
I don’t know about Aro, but I think that Terence Stamp would be a great Caius. I don’t know why. I can just picture it working out very well.
LOL =]
loved the post (Duh!)
this chapter wassss awkward for me… i felt like i was intruding into somebody’s diary… so personal! haha
oh well. i agree with you on your perspective of Edward. Idk how he does it. If i were Bella i wouldn’t hurt him like that (you know like with the bracelet thing).
I honestly picture Johnny Depp as Aro — he is one SEXYYYY VAMPIRE hehehehehe 😉
Ok, this is my 2nd comment. First I want to say that I’m team Switzerland. And maybe im going to get in trouble for this.
Many girls really love edward and say he’s just perfect, but there is something in him that sometimes i dont like. he thinks he knows whats best for bella, and maybe he really does because of his age, but when he tries to protect her -even from herself- he just hurts her. i mean, he left in new moon, and i know he did it because he thought it was best for bella, but he just hurt her. and not just her, but all his family -i mean, im sure it was hard for the rest of the cullens to leave forks, to start a new life again. some may say that they dont matter, because bella is his first priority, but he has a family too, and he has to think about them.
and then there are other examples of this, though im not sure if i should mention them (i think its kind of a spoiler).
jacob is irritating and annoying sometimes, and doesnt respect edward and bella’s relationship, but remember their case is different. they live in a world where vampires and werewolves are enemies. so how would you feel if the girl you loved wanted to become a part of your worst enemies? i think jacob knows he should stay away from bella, but he knows if he does, hell loose her forever, thats why he tries to get between them.
iM Nawt Tryna Get All “Harry Potter” iN Heer,
Buhh The Guy Who Playsz Professor Snape Wuldd bb A Good Aro [iThink.]
Way to avoid the ‘awkward’ topic!! You make me giggle with your avoidance of the intimate scenes.
I believe there are a few reasons that Edward wants to be married so badly. First – it is totally in character for him – he avoids killing humans as his food source because it is the moral thing to do. He is a very moral person. Second – He still carries the values of the early 1900’s with him – just because values change in the world around you it doesn’t mean you have to change your values. Thirdly – He is jealous of Jacob and Bella’s relationship and he wants to ensure that she will ultimately be with him. Fourth – He is afraid that after she is changed, her feelings about him will change – she will be unhappy and blame him. (Sorry – really long explanation.)
As for Jacob – I think he does love Bella – at least as much as any 16 year old loves anyone. Besides, he is a protector, he is doing what he was born to do – protecting her from vampires. However – he is annoying!! Any guy who forces himself on a girl in any way should be kicked! Just because he feels he is justified, doesn’t make it right.
The proposal is my favorite part. And yes, it is cheesy!!
Casting – Ben Barnes as Aro is a good choice – but I’d love to see Johnny Depp.
Jason Isaacs as Caius. He’s a good bad guy (The Patriot, Harry Potter).
David Tennant as Marcus.
They need someone really tough to be Demetri – like The Rock!
I just hope whoever they choose does a great job!!
Everyone’s said this, but definitely Be Barnes. He was so awesome in Prince Caspian. I can really see him pulling off the happy-go-lucky Aro. 😀
Great post. Ahaha. Awkward. *snicker* It was. Very. Ahaha… ah…
I can’t believe I took so long to comment! I’m usually in the top 10 or at least 20! Sigh. I feel like I’ve let myself down.
Okay, I admit it, I can’t type. I meant Ben Barnes and you all know it.
I dont really know who Id like to play Aro, I just know that I dont ever want any ultra famous, recognizable actors playing roles in any of the twilight films, I have this thing when I picture the twilight universe where every character seems so real it makes it believable. but if every character could be recognised from their work outside the twi universe then it would take that believability away from the experience for me.
or at least thats my thinking. its different with rob and kristin, I dont see them as the characters in different roles, or as themselves, they’re completely other.
anyway, I also dont want anyone really famous because then they’d have to pay them alot, and that would take away from what they could do on-screen.
I love the way edward speeks too.
😀 melissaturkey
Wow, I just came across your website for the first time today, never having heard of it before and we’re on the same chapter of Eclipse! Ha ha
I’m reading it for the first time.
I still want to “La Push” the puppy dog off of a cliff.
Cheers and later!
“Oh look,” he huffed, “your heart’s beating. Whoop-de-doo.” Am I the only one who found this comment hilarious??? I started cracking up and couldn’t stop for a few minutes. the whoop-de-doo at the end just pushed me over the edge 😀
Bella, Edward, and Jake lol where to start with this? well, despite what # 8 up above me might say, Edward would be hurt far worse than Jacob if Bella ever died. Edward’s decision to kill himself was not some overly dramatic display. Edward IS NOT the type prone to theatrics. Sure he’s more romantic, and often says things in a poetic way, but he always tries to act perfectly rationally and controls his emotions. he has to, he isn’t allowed to express his feelings freely like jake. He doesn’t allow himself this luxury, simply because the alternative would be bella’s death. Even if you believe Jacob loved Bella as strongly as one human can love another(I do not) he wouldn’t be able to love her as much as Edward loves Bella. Jacob as human can fall in and out of love and his emotions can change. Edward’s cannot. for him if Bella dies that’s it. And he can’t even tell himself to just endure living until he dies as some people do after loosing a loved one, because he won’t have that to look foreward to. If Bella should die and Edward doesn’t kill himself he would just exist. like marcus. It should be obvious to all, especially after reading breaking dawn, that Vampires become much more strongly attached/bonded to their mates than is humanly possible. co-dependant at the very least.
If bella were to die then jake on the other hand would be very hurt. Crushed even, and for a while grief would probably consume him. But for him time would start to heal the pain. He’d move on and find someone else in all likelihood. Now, you can justify Jacob’s behavior as stemming completely out of concern for her well being, (generous in my opionion)but even so if he loved her as much as Edward than he would be able to show respect for her. You say that’s not fair because he’s only 16? Edward is forever 17. He has the same body and drives as other 17 year old boys. Sure he can learn new things, but his personality, and character are frozen. Perhaps Edward was more mature than Jacob at almost the same age, but it’s not just that. It’s because Edward loves bella so much that he acts so mature. True love is by it’s very essence unselfish and therefore matures. Edward acts so mature and unselfish not because he has some super inner power that makes him so, but because he loves bella so much that it just natureally leads him to act for her best intrest even if it means pain for himself. It’s why he doesn’t hate Jacob, because his love for Bella doesn’t leave any room for it. Jacob, if he loved bella, truly loved her, he wouldn’t hate Edward, even if he does think she should be with him for her own safety.
And Kaleb, I honestly can’t agree with you that Bella is keeping Jake around just in case. I don’t think she realizes how much she’s hurting edward, because he keeps most of it hidden. She doesn’t want to hurt anyone and she tries to do this through compromise aka switzerland, but, you can’t be switzerland in this case. You can’t hang on to two guys and think that it’s ok. It’s not. Even if jake claims to be ok with being second fiddle. He isn’t. This is my biggest gripe with switzerland people. It’s like the politically correct group. It’s the worst though, because it’s the cop out, that doesn’t lead to someone being excluded. it takes no hard stands and doesn’t offend. But in the end it only causes the most pain for everyone, (especially jake) and is just a stalemate. I like Jake’s character, and that’s why I’m not Switzerland.
However, there is also another reason to bella and Jake’s relationship, which will be shown later later on.
AH! I just realized that picture moved! Scared the Life out of me! Goodness!
…..and this is why I have a phobia of eyebrows.
Love your post by the way! Keep up the good work! 😀
Oh and I think Aro should be played by……… (drumroll)….. Jacki Chan!
Chuck Norris! YOU, KALEB NATION!
ha,ha,ha…i’m sure they’re all closet twilight guys…. it’s awesome that you stand up and say you’re a fan, and heck you’re even kinda famous for your blogs, but i think more guys need to be like you and not be so afraid that people will find out they’ve read the twilight series.
i agree with you on the whole jacob/edward thing. and it’s one of the reasons why edward was such an amazing guy to me because bella still wants jacob in her life even though she knows she’s gonna stay with edward, and edward is jealous, but he would never make her feel bad about having jake there because he trusts her, and because jake can give her the human life edward always wanted her to have.
i have more than one person for Aro, but i was pretty pleased when they brought up Ben Barnes. I don’t know if he’s gonna get it, but i think he would do a great job if he did get it.
i soo agree with you Rachel [#108]
and the way u’ve put it is beautiful..!!
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and kaleb that was a nice post..as for Aro i don’t know who should play him..but i have him well pictured in my head..!!
Wow! Everyone wrote a lot. Ummm I’ll start with the casting.
Aro – Either Cillian Murphy (Batman…I think) or Ben Barnes (Prince Caspin).
Marcus – Paul Bettany (A Knight’s Tale)
Caius – Jason Issac (I agree with Tina)
The other issue on the relationship. I agree with bits of everyone and I think if I wrote it all down. It would be way too long and I dont have the energy right now to write it now.
Just wanted to add, I love how you have questions for the comments. 🙂
Hmmm…Aro, Aro, Aro…I could kinda picture Johnny Depp to play Aro…Not Ben Barnes though – he seems to be more of a Demetri…
For Caius, I could really see him being played by that guy that played Silas in ‘The Da Vinci Code’, but that’s probably just me…
I don’t know about handling being Edward or Jake. What about having to handle being Bella? Being to torn between her boyfriend/true love and her *ahem* best friend.
Playing the part of Aro, that’s a tough one, as long as he looks bewteen 30-45 I don’t really mind, as I imagined him to be middle aged kinda, though I spose 30 is a little young still… No, maybe it isn’t, I don’t know! LOL:D
Aro should be…some ugly skinny guy…Micheal Jackson?
Anyways i was reading a book the other day about vampires (don’t ask) and it was saying about they have no soul and gave a bunch of reasons why they have no soul. Now i’m seriously confused on what i should believe. help?
Gah! I was so anxious for your reply to this one– it’s like my favorite chapter.
You didn’t even comment on the best part!!
Sigh.
And Team Edward all the way! I agree– he’s rude and gets in the way.
And it gets worse, Kaleb.
Coming up, the #1 reason I cannot stand Jacob.
You’ll see.
Wow my last post made a lot of sense.
Jacob is rude, etc.. Not Edward!!
OK, sorry my last comments didn’t make much sense–I was on my iPod, and its hard to type on it. But now I’m on my CPU, so prepare for a longer post!
In reply to Danielle F. :
You claim that we need to identify with Jacob’s character more–but I really don’t think you know Edward–or Jake, for that matter– at all. If you doubt, for one instant, the love Edward has for Bella..good god! Edward’s not just going to go kill himself to be theatrical–he cannot live without her in his life. By killing himself he would be putting in that last effort to do whatever he could to BE WITH HER. I think he would be hoping that there is a good after-life for vampires, as Carlisle believes, (hence New Moon) so he could be with Bella. And, take this BD quote as an example (don’t worry, its not a spoiler) from Jake’s prospective. “I knew I would have to live a lot more, suffer a lot more, before I could understand the look in Edward’s eyes.”(that may not be exact) That right there, my friend. Jacob never really KNOWS how much Edward loves Bella–he’s in denial.
AS for Jacob.
I’ve never had much feelings for him, because I never truly believed he had 100% good intentions–hence mostly the thing that happens in the forest soon–which I won’t mention for Kaleb’s sake, if he reads this. Jacob’s too pushy, too forceful. It strikes me that even in New Moon, when Bella was at her worst, Jacob still had the guts to call the vampires “bloodsuckers” in front of her, to try to hold her hand in that movie theater, etc…its like he doesn’t care about her feelings at all–he just wants her to go out with him. On top of it all, he knows how IN LOVE Bella is with Edward–and he still wants to tear them apart. It’s horrible, and cruel. He cannot honestly believe Edward would do her harm–he’s as much a danger to her as Jake is to her. He’s kind of hypocritical–to think, oh, Edward can hurt her, but I KNOW I won’t? They both are stronger than her, and Jake knows if he loses control he could hurt her as well–he’s just so in denial about it. To be honest, I was on good terms with him up to a point in New Moon–it sucked that Edward was gone (I cried…a lot..) but really, he was there to help her, and up until he became a werewolf he had good intentions. But after he got all angry and self-confident I couldn’t take it anymore. And, as much as everyone thinks New Moon is souly based on Jacob, its not. Not at all, not to me. Just because Edward’s not there in flesh, he’s there in MIND. The entire time. It’s not about how Bella befriends Jacob–its about her knowledge that she needs Edward in her life, and in her own words, their bond cannot be broken by absence, distance, or time.
Ta-da.
As for the Aro thing..I have no idea..Ben Barnes would be good, I think. I think.
BEN BARNES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think the discussion about Edward/jacob is very interesting.
Some people here say that Edward loves Bella more than Jacob loves her. They see the fact that, when she dies Edward will most certainly kill himself, although Jacob would probably live on as a proof. I think you cannot compare these reactions.
Firstly, they are diffrent people with diffrent characters. You can count on Edward to always overreact. You can count on Jacob to be a rebel and don’t think things true.
Secondly, Edward is a vampire. Jacob is human (well, quite). Edward won’t change, because he’s a vampire. His love for Bella is unnatural and doesn’t change. Would she die, his life would be meaningless. His love towards his family wouldn’t even matter to him anymore. Sometimes, I find Edwards love for Bella and her love for him quite disturbing. Jacob’s love, however, is human. This certainly doesn’t mean is feelings aren’t as deep as Edwards feelings, but Jacob’s love for Bella is just diffrent. It changes. He used to have only a crush on her, but as he gets to know her better during New Moon, he really falls in love with her. Would she die, his heart would be broken in one million pieces, but he would eventually feel better, even if he wouldn’t believe it himself. People change, feelibgs change – it’s part of being human.
I’ll just wait until chapter 26 is discussed, that one really changed my thoughts on Jacob.
I think one of Jacobs reasons to keep ‘interfering’ between Edward and Bella is that he truly believes Edward is dangerous to her. Don’t forget that he knows what vampires are capable of and that he still doesn’t fully understand the Cullens.
Sixteen. Sixteen? Okay, I was reading your comments and I saw a lot of “Jacob is only sixteen.” Which totally reminded me of High School Musical 3. Hahah! You do know there was a song called Sixteen right?
But what made me go “Sixteen, sixteen” was because all your comments were all using the same old “he’s just 16” reason to be so utterly annoying and gets away with it.
Well, I am sixteen. And I’ve been where Jacob is before. And I would really love to give myself a reason to be so annoying like Jacob and actually get away with it 😀 But no, there is never a good reason for me to behave the way he did.
I can agree with him being a werewolf and werewolves can’t really control their patience and all. But sixteen? Stop it, that’s ridiculous! Sixteen year old are not THAT immature!
Some say, “Edward left, so he needs to deal with it. Jacob was there when he was gone, and he deserves her love”.
But what about Edward? Bella was already under the impression that Edward left her because he didn’t want her to be with him. She had a reason to move on, but she didn’t. Because she loved Edward way too much to even stop to think that she could stop loving him. But Edward, he was the one who left, and he knew that he left Bella while she was loving him. He knew what could have been. But he didn’t stay. He left FOR Bella. He came back FOR Bella. No one stopped to wonder, when he left, who was the one to STITCH Edward back up?
“When I wasn’t actively tracking, I was… totally useless. I couldn’t be around anyone. I’m embarrassed to admit that I more or less curled up into a ball and let the misery have me.”
Of all the time Bella was befriending Jacob, Edward was hurt and no one was there to pick up all his shattered pieces. But I’m pretty sure that the thought of Bella being happy was all he needed to comfort himself. Because all he cared was Bella.
If Edward has to deal with the outcome AFTER Edward left, then why can’t Jacob deal with what happened BEFORE Edward left, or before Bella came to see him? It’s the same as saying, Edward was there first to take his place in Bella’s heart. And there’s no way he will ever leave. But then Jacob came in later, and he, too, couldn’t leave. So how come Jacob deserves better than Edward?
Jacob did pick up all the pieces for Bella. But why did those pieces fall in the first place? Because Edward left. That shows how hurt Bella was when Edward left. She wasn’t planning on forgetting him. She wanted him back. And although Jacob helped her out, and fell in love with her, I can still accept the fact that he tries to express his feelings towards Bella. But showing Bella how much he wishes she wasn’t with Edward? Well that’s too much don’t you think?
Don’t know about Aro, but i think that Cristina Ricci would be a good Jane…
And, oh well, Johnny Depp would be a great Aro, now that I think about it…
I don’t know if anyone else has noted this, but about Jacob/Edward… something you missed about Edward’s ability to let Jacob hang around. I think there is a part of Edward that wants Bella to choose Jacob, and if he bans Jacob, then he’s removing that option – not the option of Jacob, but the option of life. It’s the self-less part of him that wants her to choose life – human life. Edward’s great struggle is whether or not to turn Bella. And if she chooses Jacob, she’ll stay human. His selfish and self-less sides are battling, and it’s his self-less side that enables him to keep Jacob around, in the hopes that Bella will choose life.
I must be completely out of the Aro description loop. I always pictured him looking old, as if maybe he wasn’t actually as old as he looked, but still looking ancient.
That being said, I have NO idea who I could picture playing him, and if I did, it would be someone really old, which is probably way off.
Looking forward to your chapter 22 analysis, 21 is good, 22 is my favorite 🙂
I’ve just got to say…Preach It Brad!!
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
*ehem*
Bahaha
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Done. I think.
My opinion? I think Johnny Depp IS Aro (see Sweeney Todd for proof).
And that part about putting yourself in Edward’s place is exactly what anti-fangirls don’t get. He IS trying to deal with it, but he’s still a GUY. To quote Angela:
“Edward’s only human, Bella, he’s going to react like any other teenage boy”
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Well, he isn’t, but the principle is still spot on and I’m sure you understand.
Now, excuse my babbling, but I’ve got Chocolate orange cookies on the brain…
Sorry, I just see the character of Aro being played by a young actor with the skill of bringing a “sweet” yet conniving bastard, presence to the screen, Ala John Maklovich or Nicolas Cage.
Someone mentioned Jason Isaacs (Lucius Malfoy) as a possible actor. He does have the presence and skill to pull it off. Just watch him in “The Patriot.”
But here is a name I haven’t heard for Aro – Christian Bale.
Timothy Dalton would make a good Caius, and for Marcus – that’s a tough one. Need an actor that can pull off a good presence with not very many lines. One that can get the bored, yet doesn’t miss a thing around him, attentive look. Maybe a Michael Keaton type actor.
Felix (remember, he is the fighter) – The Rock. Hands down. Can’t you just see the scene in New Moon where “he raises his hand, palm up and curls his fingers twice”
Demitri (the tracker) – Ben Barnes.
Of course some of them might be a bit old for the parts, but finding young actors with that skill might be tough.
After reading the books numerous times (starting Breaking Dawn for the fourth time) I have come to the conclusion that Jacob is an ASS. Part of it has to do with my feelings on the action he took the first time he kissed Bella. I DETEST that type of behavior and if I was Edward I KNOW I wouldn’t have had the self-control to not do something to him after I found out.
Rachel (post #108), I agree with you on most of your thoughts, with one glaring exception. Personality is not tied to physical age. Personality can and does evolve with experiences and knowledge gained over the years.
I think Lambert Wilson would be a good Aro… i always pictured him as it. If you’ve seen the Matrix, hes the Merovingian (evil french guy) here’s a picture: http://www.ota-jones.net/main/images/lamberter3.jpg
Gary Oldman would be perfect for the part! He could dye his hair, and he’s a great actor! He’s perfect for the ‘bad guy’ in Aro.
I think Guy Pearce would be the most amazing Aro ever… He’s deffinatly got the face for Aro or atleast one of the Volturi leaders… Plus he is a totaly amazing actor.. I mean there aren’t really that many actors who can play a drag queen one year and then a total bad a$$ the next…. I totaly love him and think he would make a great addition to the Twilight series….
Plus Kaleb, I’m super excited, just like everyone else, to see what you think of chapter 22… SO READ!!!!!!! lol
Ohhhhhh…….. or what about Christian Slater as Aro….. I mean he played an amazing crazy psycho in My Own Worst Enemy… Plus he is SUPER HOTT!!!!!! Just a random though…lol
The posts are amazing! (So amazing that this is my third post.) It’s an all out Edward/Jake war!! First off, if there were not pieces of us that identified with both boys, it wouldn’t be good writing. The fact that people have gotten so ridiculously against one of the two just shows how amazing the series is! I do agree with the few people that said Team Switzerland is just a cop-out. When we look at if from Bella’s point, the whole reason she chose Switzerland was so that she didn’t have to choose. Yes, total cop-out. You’re one or the other, or you’re just afraid to admit it.
I just have a few people to comment back to:
83. Thanks for agreeing with me about Anthony Hopkins! At least I’m not the only one now!!
98. I agree with you about the awesome-ness of Seth. I completely love his character, even though it’s not fully developed until Breaking Dawn. I’m not very up on the world of young teen actors, but I looked around anyway and tried to find someone. In just a short amount of looking, the one person I think might be okay is… Max Thieriot. What do you think??
119. What I have taken from the Twilight books about vampires and souls is that you never really know. Maybe if this Complete Guide ever comes out after a zillion new release dates, there may be an answer to that. If you think about vampires over time, Angel (from Buffy) was the first vampire to have a soul, and he was cursed with it. Then Spike fought to win his back hoping to gain Buffy’s love as a result. Stephenie’s world of vampires are totally different from anything we’ve read before, though. I don’t think it’s supposed to matter much what we think about the subject, just that we know what they think. Carlisle believes there is something for them after death, so does Bella. Edward says he’s not sure, but Bella doesn’t believe him because when he thought the Volturi had killed him, he believed he was back in Bella’s arms in death. I think, for now, whether or not you believe vampires have souls is something that rests solely on you. Just don’t put too much credit on outside sources.
128. I totally agree with you about Edward hoping that Bella chooses life. Just like he’s said before, he wants that as much as he doesn’t want it. I think that’s the real reason he never asks her to choose. He knows there’s that chance that she’ll choose Jacob, and he knows that no matter what her choice, he can’t bear it. However, I really don’t see how at this point it’s much of a factor that she stay human, because eventually, the Volturi are going to find her. When they do, if she’s still human against their orders, they will destroy her. After all the fear that the Volturi has instilled in me up to this point, I find it funny that people have pretty much forgotten their demand sitting in the background.
John Malkovic! there is no one who is better for Aro in my eyes! I actually have an intire cast for NM in my head! and the Twilight guy in hiding at your college is hillarious! I somehow would have gave him a hint towards this site…
For some reason, I have always pictured Lord Capulet from the Leo Dicaprio, Romeo and Juliet. Who was that guy?
For Marcus I like Jean Reno-he always looks bored in his movies.
Aro, for some reason, Jason Issacs,(Lucius Malfoy) yet I believe he could pull off the nice but having something going on the back burner!
Hmmm…I’m thinking that Johnny Depp could make a pretty good Aro. But then, perhaps I am biased in favor of Johnny Depp’s acting powers…
In my opinion Edward tolerates Jacob’s front and center presence in Bella’s life because Edward can read Jacob’s mind. He knows that Jacob is there for Bella and that Jacob’s intentions are pure. Despite their differences, Jacob and Edward share a common goal What is best for Bella comes first. Similar goals creates a bond even between rivals.
I like the idea of Ben Barnes from ‘Prince Caspian’ playing Aro. I thought Aro would look older, but I think Ben Barnes has the right look and he can pull it off. Aro is very cordial toward Bella and the Cullens, but underneath he’s really cunning and manipulative.
I love how Edward had values. I just hated that Bella had trounle accepting the ring and agreeing to get married. Jacob does need to back down. Bella is taken. I don’t know why she thinks she has feelings for him. This chapter, other then chapter 8, is really hot!
I have heard johnny depp, i have no idea i think he would be good choice.
I have always pictured Aro ahs creepy and dark and on Jacob
well rereading through my earlier post, I’m glad it still makes sense to me…. lol
Cutter, I understand what you’re saying, but I think his personality is whatever it was when he was biten at seventeen. Personality in humans does evolve, but that doesn’t apply to the vampires in Meyer’s world because it’s not only their Physical characteristics that are frozen.
EVERYTHING is frozen including personality. They can change their behavior, opinion and mood, however, personality changes are, I think, rendered practically impossible for them. Rosalie will always be self absorbed, Esme will always be motherly, Carlisle generous and compassionate, And Edward will forever be a doting son/brother/lover who wants to do what’s right.
Personality as it refers to patterns of relatively enduring characteristics of behavior (according to wiki) doesn’t change for them except under extreme circumstances. Such as loosing their mate. I’d hazard a guess that Marcus used to be very different. And once a change happens it seems to be equally impossible to change back.
Yay Kaleb =D
Anything by Shiny Toy Guns= Epic WIN =D I love this song!!!!!!
Hello Kaleb,
I’ve never commented before here, but I wanted to pass along my thoughts.
I liked how you thought deeply about why Edward wanted to marry Bella so badly… but when I first read this chapter, I thought it was something more along the lines of ‘wanting her to belonged to him and no one else’. –Jacob anyone?? Now before I get things thrown at me, I really like Jacob. I love that all he knows is that he loves this girl and he’s going to do anything in his power to protect her, with everything he’s got. And slowly you begin to understand why it’s hard for Bella to let go; it paints the whole picture for you later. Cannot wait to hear your thoughts on Chapter 22.
As for the cast… I was thinking about another actor for Aro, but when I saw it mentioned earlier, I could picture Christian Slater. Not sure about the other two….
I love reading all these comments!! They are so interesting and so debatable.–keep posting everyone. They make a great read for killing time at work. 🙂
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, people can we all just take a deep breath? Good lord. I have no idea how many times this whole ‘Jacob is an ass in Eclipse and Edward is a saint’ debate has been done, but honestly, if you can’t handle what’s been written in the comments and voice your own staunch opinion on how horrible Jacob is (which has been done HOW many times now?) DON’T READ THE COMMENTS! I really think we should all just respect each others opinions. I think it’s great that a book can illicit such strong emotions in people, but blatantly criticizing someone else’s beliefs? The great thing about literature is that the reader is free to interpret the text however he/she wishes! I’m sure that those poor people who were brave enough to support Jacob would cringe at what some people have thrown back in their faces. Let’s be reasonable. Not broken records repeating the same stuff we’ve all seen over and over again. We here to applaud Kaleb on getting so far and give wonderful insight on the books we have come to love. Let’s not turn his enjoyable website into a place to trash Jacob/ Switzerland supporters. It’s getting old. We all know who won. So instead, let’s find out something we didn’t know before by supporting everyone of different beliefs and Kaleb himself. Come on, these books brought us together, let’s not let them tear us apart.
Dear Kaleb
I’m so happy to find someone who agrees with me on the reason Edward wants to marry Bella! My friends all think that it’s just because he wants Jacob to stay away, and matrimony will make that wish become a little more solid. We got into arguments quite a few times as a result of all of our differing opinions, but we all just learned to accept it (a few bags of now smashed animal crackers later.)
For Aro, I could definitly see Ben Barnes or Johnny Depp as being the old collector. Both have an agelessness to themselves that not many people can pull off, as well as an Italian accent.
Keep reading!