The song for this chapter is (The Symphony Of) Blase’ by Anberlin
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And so they are wed: Edward and Bella are together at last, as we always knew they would end up. This wedding is magnificently organized by Alice, and just imagining it causes me to immediately remember this film:
Except, instead of Steve Martin, Charlie Swan; and instead of humans, a strange assortment of very nervous looking vampires and werewolves. What a wedding to remember!
Then, Jacob Black appears. I don’t understand. I really do not understand at all. I am completely baffled and perplexed. At what point does it become appropriate for an old boyfriend to come to his ex-girlfriend’s wedding, and then take her for his own private dance whilst kissing her hair the moment the groom (currently her husband) disappears? Where does this equate to Jacob being respectful to Edward and his wife — of all days, on the very evening they were wed? This, in my opinion, is but a less severe example of a groom who sleeps with one of the bridesmaids (I’ve once lived in an old Texas hicktown: this does happen 😀 ).
Now, understand that it would have been fine for Jacob to show up at the wedding. If I was Edward, I don’t think I would have any trouble with some of my new wife’s old guy friends making an appearance (on the grounds they are appearing just so that I can make them feel incredibly jealous 😀 ). But Jacob isn’t happy with just being there to wish his friend well. This is perhaps one of the most frustrating things I have read so far. Who does Jacob think he is?
People are going to ask me why I am jumping so harshly upon Jacob Black, especially when I have tried so hard through writing my posts to understand him and to not choose any side. But this is because, as of this chapter, there are no Teams anymore. How can I be Team Jacob, if Team Edward won? It isn’t really a question of who would be better for her, since it is done. To be Switzerland at this point, in my opinion, would be to hang on to the hope that Bella will leave her husband in order to be with her ex-boyfriend. This is Twilight, not some daytime drama.
Still, as usual, it is easy to be against Jacob without looking at things from his point of view. Completely disregarding all courtesy and respect for Edward and Bella, what sort of horrible heartbreak must Jacob be going through right now? This poor guy has tried everything he can to convince Bella she is making a mistake, and even then he can’t give up, when his chance is gone and there is really no more reason to fight for her. I can’t even imagine if I was Jacob Black at that wedding, dancing with the girl I loved more than anything else in the world, and knowing that it is perhaps the last time I’d ever get to, since after that she is someone elses. I know that Jacob probably wishes that time would stop then, because he never wants to leave that last moment.
This type of thing can tear someone apart wondering what might have been if Bella had chosen to remain a human with Jacob. Setting aside all the questions of who is good for Bella, and who shouldn’t have come to the wedding, and all the Teams and Switzerlands: this marriage is going to be hard on everyone. Werewolves and vampires have entirely new treaties to deal with, Jacob must find someone new, and now Edward and Bella must deal with their new life together: and, Bella’s new life as a vampire. Things would have been far simpler had she not fallen in love with Edward. But, things might not have had such a happy ending.
I feel there is a good resolution, however, to Jacob’s feelings for Bella, and that Jacob finally owns up to what he must do:
“Are you happy, Bella?” (Jacob said.)
“Yes.”
“Okay.” I felt his shoulders shrug. “That’s the main thing, I guess […] I’m just here to be your friend. Your best friend, one last time.”
Those final words are the reason I chose the song for this chapter: in a way, I think Jacob feels this could be his last goodbye to Bella, or at least the last time he will really get to hold her. After this day, she is all Edward’s. My respect for Jacob, who might finally be maturing, has grown considerably: and even with my criticisms of his choices, I still feel very bad for him as he is dragged away from Bella, once again with a broken heart.
So I shall throw my imaginary bag of rice in the direction of Bella and Edward, bid them best wishes on their honeymoon, and hope that all will soon be well with the broken-hearted Jacob: from whom I doubt I have heard the last.
Question For The Comments: Do you think that Jacob Black went too far at Bella’s wedding? Also, do you think he deserves to feel the way he does now, for hanging on to a girl who wasn’t his: or was it noble for him to try to change her mind up to the last day?
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Jacob's fears and concerns about Bella are very well founded. No one should read this book the first time this slow. You can reread it more slowly the second time.
Oh, bless you Kaleb, you understand!!
I don't think Jacob went too far, he is as you said maturing and realizing as much as his heart might be broken (the Jacob fangirl in me tears), Bella is finally as completely with Edward as is possible. He just went to the wedding to see if Bella was happy. He is finally admitting that as hard as he fought for her love, Edward won, and he will accept the cosequenses with good grace. It also shows how much he loves her that he CAN do that, and that if he can't be with Bella, he will make sure that she will be happy over anything. *tear*
Knowing as much as he does love Bella, he's going to try so hard to find some way to keep Bella from Edward not just because he wants Bella for himself, but he wants to keep her safe and happy and he can't see why Bella would want to be with Edward. Because he can't see why she loves him, Jake will keep trying to change her mind and make her see that she is making a mistake. He tried to keep Bella from Edward, but the last minute he understands that he can't do anything anymore and that Bella's happiness over-rules his broken heart. That's why he got so upset when Bella told him that she will have a normal as possible honeymoon, and they will have sex, and it's not just that Bella will have sex with Edward as Jacob is terrified that Edward will hurt her in some way and that Bella won't be happy anymore. He still might be young and a werewolf, but he has legitamate reasons for being so angry.
Jacob doesn't deserve to be hurt. It might not look like it, but everything he does is because he loves Bella and it's for all good reasons. It just comes down to the fact that over everything, Bella loves Edward more, and her love for Jacob can't over rule that.
oh! of course! how come i didn't think of that?
oooh! one of the best chapters in my opinion!
and about your question…yes i think Jacob went a little to far..i realize that he still loves Bella and is hurting but i still thought it was a little strange..Like you said he has to accept that Edward won and he needs to move on. I liked your point in how it is slightly impossible to be anything but Team Edward by this point the series because Edward has 'won'. Even Team Switzerland doesn't make sense, because i highly doubt Bella would cheat on Edward.
And i thought it was sort of dumb how Jacob got all defensive and violent when Bella told him she and Edward were going to have a “normal” honeymoon…what did he expect? They were going to get married but never…yeah okay you get what i'm saying…i just thought he should have known better than that..
All in all i think that Jacob went a little too far by trying to win her over one last time after she was married, he should have given up (at least to me) after Edward had proposed and the wedding was set…Bella obviously chose Edwards love over Jacobs as hard as it might be to accept.
can't wait for you to read more !!! 😀
I'm all for Team Edward but I think I can sympathize for Jacob on this one. I mean, he does love Bella and he's losing her to his sworn enemy. But he should have been less touchy with Bella. After all, she JUST got married to Edward. And she does love Edward more (as we assume from the wedding) and if Bella was the one he was suppose to be with, how come he hasn't imprinted on her? So Jacob went a little too far when he could've had a nice slow dance (at arm's length) and talked about how they'll miss each other or any of that other stuff… He's been hurt a lot but he needs to start and try to move on from Bella.
Now that you mention it, I DO think Jacob went a bit too far. I mean, he knew they were getting married months in advance, so he didn't really have an excuse there. Still, I guess it's understandable how he came just to see her, because he loved her, even though he knew he'd lost.
In a sense, I suppose he does he deserve what he got, but it just sounds WAY too harsh in that context. It's like the way Edward took everything Jacob threw at him in Eclipse, because he thought he deserved the pain for hurting Bella when he left in New Moon. my excuse for Edward leaving Bella, is that he just had no clue what he was doing to her when he left; like he said in Twilight, he had no experience in love, and no one in his familiy had ever fallen in love with a human, so he was all on his own for that one. So I don't think anyone really deserves to suffer.
What I don't get about Jake, is how he actually came to their WEDDING to try and disuade Bella from doing what she was going to do. I mean, I get the fact that he tried in Eclipse, but NOW?! Seriously, love really does make fools out of people. Jeez.
I was always Team Edward until Breaking Dawn, until I reverted to Team Switzerland (even though, like you said, the teams are pretty much dead now). I think you'll see why eventually.
It's not just that Bella will be Edward's. It's that Jacob believes Bella turning into a vampire is a worse fate than death.
Finally!!! I congratulate you, Kaleb, for finally acknowledging that Jacob Black has gone too far this time. Thank you for finally joining the Team Edward winner's circle!! YEAH!!!
But, I am glad that he came at all, marginally, because Bella was miserable without him at least saying one last goodbye (why, I have no idea!!). Yet, when he starts trying to convince her to change her mind once more, it shows that he has indeed gone too far. And it is NONE OF HIS BUSINESS concerning Bella and Edward's wedding night. He went too far. The end!! It is sad but it's the truth. He lost. I wish he would give up already!!
And, yes, Edward and Bella were meant for each other. Jacob had always been a strange obstacle, he never belonged with her. Edward breaks my heart the way he always lets Bella keep going back to Jacob like this.
All I can say is that I would have been pretty upset if my ex or a guy I sorta-almost-kinda had a thing with showed up at my wedding and freaked out like that. No bride wants to get yelled at on her special day – even a non-bridezilla like Bella. And I can guarantee you that my husband would have minded – a LOT – and he's a pretty mellow guy about most stuff. In fact, I don't think I know a single man who would be okay with another guy putting the moves on his lady or freaking out in her general direction, wedding day or not. Boys do have a tendency to revert to cavemen in those situations. I can just see Edward whipping out a big club and bonking Jacob on the head before pulling Bella back to his cave by her hair. I think it's a latent instinct in men. Anyway, I found myself wishing that Bella would grow a spine in this chapter and just tell Jacob to go pound salt when the honeymoon issue initially was raised.
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i feel bad for Jacob! i no this might sound wierd because everyone is hating on him now but i feel soo bad for him! he was the one that helped Bella when Edward left! hes a part of her now and nothing can change that! even tho Edward will always be Bellas, Bella will always need both! she thinks she can live without Jacob but in the end she needs him too! he left a mark on her thats never fading and i think Edward needs to accecpt! BUT im not trying to make it seem that Jacob isnt at any fault here, he came to their wedding to be a gft for Bella to see her best friend. he should have shut up and minded is own because whatever Bella and Edward had planed for after the wedding is their life now! he had no say in it! but getting all mad was SSSOOOO uncalled for!! like take a chill pill! shes not yours! im happy Edward stepped in! and sam was right to be waiting by just in case! but other then the Jacob thing the wedding as AMAZING! Alice is amazing! Bella was soo lucky to have her to plan everything! the way stephenie described everything was beautiful! i really hope that their make a movie for this! BUT! back to the wedding/Jacob thing i wasnt really mad at him but when Bella and edward are leaving to go to the airport and jabob starts howling like his heart is being ripped out!!! I WAS PISSED!!! like WHAT THE F!??!!!?!! someone slapp him!!!! does anyone agree with me???
I loved the wedding (Alice did an AWESOME Job) up until Jacob showed up. Jacob showing up could have been a good thing (for Bella's sake because we know she wanted him there, why? I'll never get totally) but he ruined it by doing what he did & yes he did go too far. Bella was married to Edward she loves him more than anything & they are meant to be together. He knew for a few months they were going to be married so he really needed to start to move on, if he was meant to be with her he would have imprinted on Bella the first time he saw her after he became a wolf! (I got this from SM's website) This is yet another example of Jacob being his stupid, immature, annoying, teenage self and another example of why I am totally Team Edward and Jacob gets on my nerve A LOT of times. (just so you know I don't like the term ex-boyfriend to refer to Jacob or ex-girlfriend for Bella. they never dated she was always w/Edward, even when he was gone in NM. before Eclipse she never thought of Jacob that way & it was only because he manipulated her into that kiss & she saw what she would loose (humanity) by picking Edward. but that's because she's meant to be w/him.)
Haven't read all the comments.
Just want to say, I do not think he went too far. It was nice of him to show up. He freaked when he heard about the honeymoon. That is natural. To him it is like Bella said brightly, “I'm so happy. We're married now. And Edward's going to kill me.”
Well, i don´t think Jacob went to far. Jacob wished Bella to be happy, and seeing him and knowing Jake is safe seems to be somethimg that would make her happy. Also i think it´s very important for jake to be with bella even if it´s only as a best friend. He wants her to know that he´ll be there always.And when he freaked out abut her honeymoon is just natural. I mean, if it were you and the girl you loved just said that she´s going to do something that probably will kill her you would freak aot too.
Jacob really matured. he knows it would hurt bella if he never came back. So he came back, no matter how much it´ll hurt him.
And I think i know what is going on tomorrow. it´s twilightguy.com s first birthday!!!! 😀
Wow! 56 comments already! 🙂
For the question- I think Jacob goes too far ALL the time (with or without realizing it). I'd love to elaborate, but I can't really explain. He's a silly bum. Ha ha, I was trying to do that without swearwords. 🙂
Tee hee! It's coooooooming Kaleb. I CANNOT wait for the next chapter. Read it right now. You don't have a say. 😀
Hmmm. I dont really think it was too over the top for jacob. and i love this song “congragulations” by blue october for this chapter (the music is really pretty and the lyrics are perfect):
Is that seat taken
Congratulations
Would you like to take a walk with me
My mind it kind of goes fast
I try to slow it down for you
I think I'd love to take a drive
I want to give you something
I've been wanting to give to you for years
My heart
My heart, my pain won't cover up
You left me.. hu hu hu hu
My heart won't take this cover up
You left me.. hu hu hu hu
I came to see the light in my best friend
You seemed as happy as you'd ever been
My chance of being open was broken
And now you're Mrs. him.
My words they don't come out right
But I'll try to say I'm happy for you
I think I'm going to take that drive
I want to give you something
I've been wanting to give to you for years
My hearts
My heart, my pain won't cover up
You left me.. hu hu hu hu
My heart
My heart won't take this cover up
You left me.. hu hu hu hu
And I can't change this
I can never take it back
But now I can't change your mind
(You left me)
And I can't this
I can never take this back
But now I can't change your mind
can't change your mind
(You left me)
Can't change you mind
(You left me)
(You left me)
(You left me)
(You left me)
Go away
Make it go away
Please.
Ok so, firstly Edward invited Jake to the wedding at the end of Eclipse, that was the reason why he ran away. But Jake shouldn't have gotten all up in Ed's wife's grill at the wedding, he could have came said his wishes and moved on. They are married now, so its time to move on. Jake should know that Bella is not for him for one she wanted & married Edward, 2nd Jake did not imprint on Bella that should tell him right there. And he should not be all up on their sex life, that is none of Jake's biz-nass at all. So yes Jake was out of line causing dramaz at a wedding, that is not very classy if you ask me lol. Jake needs to realize that he did not get the girl so either be in her life as a friend only or go on some where his chances are over. period.
Oh goodie, I cannot wait to see your responses to the next few chapters…this is where it gets ::interesting:: LOL
I do think Jacob went to far with this one. I feel his pain at having lost the girl he loved, but come on they.are.married! I can't conceive how this is considered appropriate. Sure Jacob tries to throw in a few comments about letting go and just being friends, but this scene is just too intimate. Perhaps if he just attended the wedding, in the background, I would be more sympathetic. To me it's just more of his empty promises to be friends and let her go, but he still hasn't actually done it. And how about how he hurts her arm and practically ruins the wedding! And the distant howling! Once again, he is preying on Bella's emotions making her feel guilty.
Even though I've always been Team Edward, it hasn't diminished my affection for the impossibly human and teenage Jacob Black. He was out of line, but when hasn't he been? There have been quite a few times where I just wanted to shout “Oh for pete's sake, Jacob, just GO AWAY!” But I wouldn't want him to disappear permanently. Jacob's total lack of emotional control is the perfect counterpoint to Edward's unshakable emotional control. Jake can't help being out of line any more than Edward can help drinking blood. So, did he act like a total nitwit? Absolutely. Could he have acted any other way? I doubt it. At least Edward didn't kick his werewolf butt straight back to La Push, which he had every right to do.
jacob went WAYYYYYY too far with this whole showing up at the wedding thing. i mean, sure, it was sweet and nice of him to come and see her and say goodbye. but that wasnt all he wanted to do! he was trying to guilt bella into thinking she made a mistake and feel sorry for him. hello!! she just got married like not even two hours ago. and then he got all up in her personal business about her marriage. and then imagine how edward feels after jacobs gone! jacob caused all this stress for everyone because he cant get over himself and move on!
and THANK YOU kaleb for FINALY calling jacob out! you have NO IDEA how uber mad jacob makes me in this chapter so thanks for recognizing his idiodicy
@ the last bit, soooooo true! Although I love Jacob (Team taycob, right?), this competition makes me think of the Harry/Hermione shippers that continued to hope even after J.K Rowling admitted that Hermione and Ron were going to be together.
I kinda admire Jacob, in a way. Bella, to Jacob, is almost like Edward is to Bella (confused? =D)
He can't let go. and, if not for Bella letting it slip about the whole sex thing, I think Jacob would have held it together.
He was, in a way, giving Bella his blessing… despite what he thought was right.
You're right, he is growing up.
Of course, being a werewolf can do that to you…
But, no. I don't think he went too far. Jacob knew Bella still wanted to be friends, and he was trying to do that for her…
If he was trying to change Bella's mind, he would have told her to run away with him or something…
No, Jacob was showing Bella that he accepted what she chose, even if he hated it. I felt so bad for him.
Noble and brave and nice. That's what he was being… well, until he lost it.
But, he tried his hardest not to bust. That's what counts…
And Edward, as always, was nice enough to let Jacob try to patch things up with Bella…
Honestly, do you thing Edward would have let Bella near Jacob if it was otherwise?
They're both just great guys, i think…
(and i'm not a Team/fan person either. I like everybody… and i'm not on anybody's side.)
As much as I have never ever ever had any respect or like for Jacob, I can't say I was surprised that he showed up that way–come on, its Jacob. He doesn't care if he's being rude, annoying, or just downright ridiculous–he's still going to do it!
But, and as a solid Team Edward fan this came as a shock to me, Breaking Dawn was when I really liked Jake. A) He's out of the way, and he knows that Bella has never been his and he can stop trying to change that. B) Since he stops being so absurd, you can stop to take a look at who he is as a person.
You'll see that I think, as well, Kaleb, as you keep reading. I could definitely tolerate him in this book–he was even likable. I gain a lot of respect for him in BD, too.
You know what's funny, Kaleb? I started re-reading the series for the umpteenth time just last weekend, and I'm already on Breaking Dawn! Chapter 6! Hehe. It was funny…when I got past chapter 4 I was like “yes! I passed Kaleb!”
It is kinda frustrating when I know what is going to happend and I don't want to spoil anything..
and then about Jacob and the wedding:
I think it was selfless of him to go to the wedding for Bella, but then again, was it only for her?
And yes, he did go a little overboard 😛 He should not have asked her about the honeymoon thingy (quoting bella) it's really not his buisness xD
(ignore any wrong spelling)
I pictured the same movie while reading Breaking Dawn…haha 😀
I think it was a it to much for Jake to come. Honestly I can't even believe that Edward did allow Jake alone with her. But I can see that he wants to trust her enough to leave them alone, and had I been Edward I WOULD trust bella… I just wouldn't trust Jacob.
But you're right it does seem like Jake is finally maturing a bit. I'm glad he finally accepted that it is over. But then of course he ruined the almost happy moment. Though by the time I had read Breaking Dawn I had already formed a dislike of Jacob for the pure fact that he tried to force himself on her, and so I really couldn't forgive him here the first time I read Breaking Dawn. After reading it again a couple times and looking at it a couple different ways I accept Jake a tiny bit more but I still have a feeling of dislike toward Jacob Black and to be truthful ANY man who tries to force himself on a woman. But then I just don't like people like that.
Tell me Kaleb… had you been in a position like Jake (minus the vamps and wolves) would you have tried as hard as Jake did even going as far as to force yourself upon the girl? I think that if Jake was REALLY in love with her he would only want her to be happy. Do you agree?
So yeah I do think Jake went overboard.
Oh and I can't wait 'til tomorrow!!! Maybe you're giving away one of the books????
*sigh* first sentence should say: “it was a *bit* to much”
WTF???? Ok so i just posted a really long comment and then I posted another because I was correcting a grammatical mistake and my first disappeared leaving the correction comment only.
So if it doesn't come back this is a summary of what I said:
I think he went VERY overboard. But then I think he crossed the line just coming. But then I've got a biased opinion being that I don't like Jacob for the pure fact that he tried to force himself on Bella. I just don't like people like that.
I want to ask you Kaleb… Had you been in Jake's position (minus mythical creatures) would you have tried so hard to get the girl you love even going as far as to force yourself on her after she has already chosen someone over you? I believe if Jake had TRULY loved Bells he would have excepted this (even bitterly maybe) and just wanted Bella to be happy.
Ohhh also can't wait til tomorrow! Perhaps giving away a book? =)
Yes, it wasn't correct for Jacob to actually get things too far. Bella's already a married woman! And I wouldn't consider what Jacob did noble. It just doesn't feel right, you know, to let her be all gloomy in her wedding day.
have a great time reading, Kaleb 😀 I love your desire to read this book 😉
Hello people,
Is the new comment system deleting your comments? Because two people have said it is, but I now see them all here. It might have just been a temporary problem.
Kaleb
Im guessing blogtv tomorrow?? Thats usually the big thing, with the whole contest thing and what not (:
Wow, that was quick. I wasn't expecting another post so fast.
Anyway, I was glad Jacob still showed up because in reality I'm a very greedy happily-ever-after person and I really would rather have everyone there or no wedding. Although, I really don't think he should have over-reacted so much ; he needs an anger management class or something. So that's my take on things, enjoy the rest of the book! 😀
OK SO….I totally agree with you about Jacob being WAY out of line and not just at the wedding, but for a long time. I don't think it was nobel either. It was just pittiful. I mean, I get you love her but come on, there's a place that the line has to be drawn and you went over it a LONG time ago bud! Plus if he really loved her so much, her happiness would be #1 and he'd have stopped hanging around her and hurting her a while ago. There are times when I really like Jacob and he makes me laugh, but the times that make me hate him out number the good ones by a mile. In my opinion, when he left he should have stayed gone or at least out of Bella's life.
I don't think that Jacob was out of line at the wedding, he was getting 'closure' or so it seemed. I don't think it was nessisarily NOBLE of him to try to win her over until the last day. I think he was more in denial and trying to lie to himself. FOR EXAMPLE In New Moon, after Edward returns and Bella is having her 'epiphany' she thinks back to that night with Jessica in Port Angles and her two options for hearing Edwards 'voice' 1 Insainity 2 her mind giving her what she thinks she wanted…when she figures out the third and true one 3 edward loves her. I think that Jacob was trying to convince himself that Bella would chose him [seeing as he KNOWS she loves him], like Bella tried to convince herself that Edward didn't love her [which he did/does] but when deep down he's in denial because her love for him just can't compare to the love she has for Edward.
And a guess about tomorrow, are you giving away one (or all of) the signed books/cards?
I think it was nice of him to come but he reaaaaally shouldn't have been asking for honey-moon details. Really.
Anyway… *snicker snicker* have fun reading the next couple chapters! *snicker* I agree with someone up there that you should video tape your reaction. lol…. so that's sort of awkward….. Good luck with the honey moon!
YAY!!! The honeymoon! I can NOT wait to see your reaction! LOL! Update soon!
Anywho…
I am a Jacob hater and think he went too far. Showing up at your ex-girlfriend's wedding to another man is totally innapropriate. But of course you should also respect the fact that Bella does consider him a close friend, as stupid as she is for it. I only have 1 person in my group of friends who's Team Jacob, the rest of us are Jacob haters. So we get into a lot of heated debate about it. LOL! Jacob did deserve the punishment of seeing the girl he loves marry another man.
There never was a Team Jacob. Bella was never going to be with anyone except Edward. Jacob keeps whistling–even at her wedding–but that train long since left the station. It's all FORESHADOWING people, leading up to the NESSIE SITUATION. Bella is dead without Edward–see most of New Moon. Even when she's with Jacob, she's … thinking about Edward. When Edward shows up again, she's not “mended”–she's “as if there had never been a hole.”
yes i do think jacob went too far at the wedding.i mean its over.he lost her.edward won.jacob needed to get over that.i mean i think its fine that he showed up but he made me mad in that chapter lol.oh btw i LOVE the gossip girl pic!!!it was hilarious!!!!
No, Jacob didn't go too far. He was invited to the wedding. Bella wanted him there. Edward wanted him there (he invited him when Bella refused to do it because she didn't want him to feel obligated and suffer even more). He was her best man, she said it herself. He was her best friend. I don't really get why you think that Jacob showing up was so wrong, Kaleb. I'm actually kind of disappointed with your thoughts on this chapter. Sorry, can't help it.
And yeah, he got mad about the honeymoon. Are you guys so blind that you can't see his reasons? Even Edward knew he was right! Jacob knew that a honeymoon was too dangerous for Bella. He's been a wolf for MONTHS, so it's normal if he doesn't have as much control over himself as he had. Mix both reasons (his knowledge about the dangers of a honeymoon with a vampire and his wolf being much stronger inside himself after being in control for a lot of time) and voilá… Jacob looses his cool.
Give him a break!!! He's so NOT the bad guy!!! He only wants the best for Bella, and that's why he fights so much over the things he thinks are bad for her.
By the way, I'm Team Jacob. That doesn't mean I want him to win. Bella doesn't deserve him at all. When I say that I'm Team Jacob I'm saying that he's my favourite character.
Well… A lot of people switched to Team Jacob after Breaking Dawn. Let's see what you think of him after you've read all the chapters. Don't be too harsh on him before seeing by yourself all his developement as a character. He's actually the most developed character of the series. You'll see.
Greetings from Spain,
Alba
Do I think Jacob went to far at the wedding? Lets just say this – one of my best friends, who is 150% Team Jacob, was absolutely, royally pissed off at Jacob Black for what he did at their wedding. I wanted to castrate him. He's SOOO lucky he redemed himself….
To be there is one thing, To hide is another, If he was truely happy for her and a best friend he would have been there the whole day to support her as a ture friend would ex or not!! As for the honeymoon not his beewax and even your best GF would think twice about asking for details on that at least till after the event. Cant wait to read what you think of the next chapter??????
I think Jacob being there was kind of a good gesture, but it is too much pain for everybody. Especially Jacob. I mean, he doesn't deserve it, because no one deserves that: watch your love getting married to somebody you hate, somebody you truly think is dangerous, knowing it is a mistake.
I understand Jacob's point of view, that's why I feel sympathy for him.
On the other hand, Edward should've been more careful, after all, she just became his wife, and it is not good to leave her alone with a guy like Jacob, knowing the relationship they shared.
You have no idea how much I laughed with the Gossip Girl picture. Still laughing. I can't believe you are in Breaking Dawn, hope you enjoy the book like I did :D!!
And, congratulations on YOUR book. Im very happy for you.
I had figured that Jake would show up at the wedding, but in my scenerio it involved fighting. Yes, I do think he went too far. And I don't want to say that I necessarily think he deserves the way he's feeling, but I think that Bella made it very clear that she wasn't going to cahnge her mind in Eclipse, and it would have been less painful for BOTH of them if he'd just accepted that.
OMG first, Father of the Bride is my all-time favorite movie!!!!!!!!! Seeing that clip made my day!
Ok , now to answer the question. I was indifferent when Jacob showed up to the wedding. She just finished tying the knot with Edward so I knew that he could do nothing. They dance was cute, but he started to go too far! He asked too many rivate questions and he almost exploded into his wolf form there!!! It was soooo embarrasing!!! I was so happy when Edward showed up and took her away. Jacob is stupid and immature to not have noticed that he lost the battle. He will never get Bella!!!!! I can't believe that even after she got married he wouldn't give up.
I LOVE what you had to say about Jacob!!!!!
I think it was totally resonable for Jacob to come back for one last time because he knows things will ever be the same again. I agree with you TG aka Kaleb with Jacob maturing and being the man he always was on the inside.
I'm torn, to tell you the truth on whether or not Jacob went too far. I know Jacob came back for Bella's sake (and his own subconsciously) and just wanted to see her still in human form one last time. Of course Jacob tried his best to stay in the best friend role, he was prying for details so he would know she was safe. And then he finds out they're going to have a “real” honeymoon, and he instantly thinks the one thing he hates most (vampires…Edward especially, I'm sure) is going to violate the one thing he loves most and probably kill her in the process. I personally am Team Edward, and have been from the start. However, Jacob is my favorite character in the series. And when I use the word 'violate' I know that sounds a little harsh given they're married adults, but from a werewolf's point of view, a werewolf madly in love, I'm sure that's what he sees it as. At this point all Jacob wants is Bella to be safe and human, and now he finds he she won't be either. I'd kinda freak out, too, if I were in his shoes.
I think that Jacob went too far on the kissing the hair thing. But at the same time Bella was being a bit passive aggressive because she let it happen. Jacob had no right to do this, considering the fact Bella is Edward's now and will always and forever be his. I don't mean to sound that Bella is a slave (lol) but Jacob needs to realize that. The fact that Jacob shows up with Bella still in her wedding dress and still at her reception is absolutely atrocious.
I am Team Edward, by the way and I feel that Jacob is “digging his own grave” if you will by coming to the Cullen/Swan wedding. It is noble for him to even show his face at a wedding where the girl he loves is marrying his mortal enemy. But at the same time he does deserve to feel the way he does. If he hadn't come to give Bella the most abysmal goodybe of all eternity then he wouldn't be feeling the Bella did in New Moon: like there is a never-ending hole where his heart used to be. Every time these two say goodbye it is another tear on the corners of that hole. I know all the Team Jacob people will say that he is doing it because he loves her and will do anything to keep her human, but its Bella's wedding night for Kaleb's sake!!! And he overreacted to the most extreme degree when discussing Bella's honeymoon/transformation, and again I know it is only because he loves her but, Bella is already married and in love to Edward, and he needs to realize that.
And Edward, barely anyone thinks of Edward in this situation. For some reason by the time I read this book the 4th time (12 in total), I could not stop thinking about how this is still like Eclipse. I don't think anyone can condrict when I say that Edward loves and adores Bella to the very core of his being and wants nothing but for her to be happy. And although he is married to her and that she is his for forever, it still kills him inside, again like in Eclipse. Because Bella still wants Jacob around and still wants him in her life. The fact that he left Bella still haunts him everyday and it kills him inside when he hears Bella's absolute love and happiness when she says Jacob's name.
Sorry this is so long!!! I just have a lot to say about this topic, haha.
Nora
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I think that Jacob went too far on the kissing the hair thing. But at the same time Bella was being a bit passive aggressive because she let it happen. Jacob had no right to do this, considering the fact Bella is Edward's now and will always and forever be his. I don't mean to sound that Bella is a slave (lol) but Jacob needs to realize that. The fact that Jacob shows up with Bella still in her wedding dress and still at her reception is absolutely atrocious.
I am Team Edward, by the way and I feel that Jacob is “digging his own grave” if you will by coming to the Cullen/Swan wedding. It is noble for him to even show his face at a wedding where the girl he loves is marrying his mortal enemy. But at the same time he does deserve to feel the way he does. If he hadn't come to give Bella the most abysmal goodybe of all eternity then he wouldn't be feeling the Bella did in New Moon: like there is a never-ending hole where his heart used to be. Every time these two say goodbye it is another tear on the corners of that hole. I know all the Team Jacob people will say that he is doing it because he loves her and will do anything to keep her human, but its Bella's wedding night for Kaleb's sake!!! And he overreacted to the most extreme degree when discussing Bella's honeymoon/transformation, and again I know it is only because he loves her but, Bella is already married and in love to Edward, and he needs to realize that.
And Edward, barely anyone thinks of Edward in this situation. For some reason by the time I read this book the 4th time (12 in total), I could not stop thinking about how this is still like Eclipse. I don't think anyone can condrict when I say that Edward loves and adores Bella to the very core of his being and wants nothing but for her to be happy. And although he is married to her and that she is his for forever, it still kills him inside, again like in Eclipse. Because Bella still wants Jacob around and still wants him in her life. The fact that he left Bella still haunts him everyday and it kills him inside when he hears Bella's absolute love and happiness when she says Jacob's name.
Sorry this is so long!!!
Nora
(http://www.youtube.com/user/twilightobsess55)
Jacob didn't go to far when he went to Bella's wedding because she wanted him there as her best friend. She had no idea where he wasj, and was getting worried. It's a nice thing for Jacob to show up at the wedding even though it really hurt him to do so. I don't think he DESERVES to feel this way, but I think he should. That probably doesn't make any sense, but I know what I mean : ). I think he thinks it was the right thing to fight to take Bella out of a “dangerous” situation up until the last moment. I understand his point of view, even if I wouldn't have done the same thing.
Okay I haven't read all the posts so hopefully I'm not repeating 50 others but here's what I think: no, I don't think Jacob went too far. I think BELLA went too far. I will qualify this by admitting I am Team Edward for the most part but I have a huge appreciation for Jacob as a character and I fiercely love him in his own right but anyhoo…I digress…as I was saying…Bella has always been the problem because she can't let him go, even on her wedding night. Sometimes I worry about Edward's self esteem that he endures this tug of war with her. Even if she still has feelings for Jacob, friendly or otherwise, she needs to grow up and put them away. You're MARRIED now woman…time to devote yourself to your husband. She's hurting everyone–Jacob AND Edward–with her childish clinging to the past. I am often disappointed in her behavior and was especially so at this part. But she made up for it by ignoring his howling at the end. So those are my thoughts. Hmmm, this was fun….may post again sometime.
I must say, I was fairly annoyed with Jacob Black. For him to even pursue her to the level he has is highly unfair! As a werewolf, he could imprint on someone at any time, since he obviously hasn't imprinted to Bella…and then where would Bella be? He would leave her broken hearted without the love of her life AND without the best friend love she would have settled for with Jacob.
I agree that for him to show up was great for Bella, but he took it too far, as usual! She made her choice and he has a problem respecting that. So all the people hating on Edward's controlling behavior in the beginning of Eclipse…where are you now? Because Jacob is refusing to respect Bella's decisions, which Edward learned quickly to do.
Is Jacob better because He thinks remaining human is the best thing for Bella? His selfishness looks romantic because it's saving her humanity? At least Edward allowed and respected Bella's CHOICE…
Whoops sorry, going a bit off topic 🙂
Anyway, no, I'm not thrilled with JB's behavior at the wedding!