The song for these chapters is Fabric Of My Life by Zooey Deschanel [suggested by H.L.]
This week is the great and glorious TWICON 2009 in Dallas, Texas! I will be down at the convention all the days and unable to do my regular blogs here, so I decided that in order to keep up, I’d have to read two chapters today! I figured I needed to double up at some point in Breaking Dawn, but wanted to avoid doing this back when it was from Jacob’s point of view, and the post titles might look like:
Reading Breaking Dawn: Chapter 17 (What Do I Look Like? The Wizard Of Oz? You Need A Brain? You Need A Heart? Go Ahead. Take Mine. Take Everything I Have) AND Reading Breaking Dawn: Chapter 14 (You Know Things Are Bad When You Feel Guilty For Being Rude To Vampires)
which I assume might crash my website every time someone tried to load the page.
Charlie Swan seems to be taking the strange news quite well, considering the fact that he was just introduced to his new granddaughter who magically appears to be years older than she should. I wonder if he still thinks this is all some big joke? I suppose if I was Charlie, and I hadn’t seen Jacob transform into a big wolf, I might think that all this was a very elaborate plan to cover up something much bigger and more sinister than simply ‘Bella was sick’ and ‘Renesmee is a strange baby’.
However, despite Charlie’s good intentions, I think what Renesmee needs least of all right now is another admiring servant. She already has the Cullens and Bella and Jacob and Leah and Seth waiting on her every whim – now she has a grandfather who’s attached and ready to do her bidding. Forget her ability to crush rocks: the fact that she’s not a bratty beast is shocking enough. I was wondering for a while if she would have difficulties since she appeared to be two years old but was only two weeks old, but thankfully since she seems to also be learning at a faster rate, she might actually be able to fit in with their semi-society.
This brings up an interesting question: since Renesmee is a vampire-human child, will she ever be able to associate with humans? I mean, both Bella and Edward were able to go to high school, and to have some sort of a life with others around them. Will Renesmee be forced to live alone with her parents, and not be out with others? I wonder also if since Jacob has imprinted on her, if she actually needs those other people, and won’t feel lonely being cut off from society as long as he is around.
The arm-wrestling match proves in a way just how powerful the new Bella is. She goes from being the weakest of them all, and clumsy, and vastly uncoordinated, to being able to defeat the strongest vampire she has ever known. Seriously, she’s punching rocks and crumbling stones into powder with “the consistency remind[ing her] of hard cheese.” It makes me feel sympathies for the surrounding boulders.
It’s nice that after all of the pain and the problems that Bella has had to go through for the past couple years, to see her finally getting to have a little bit of happy, family life:
“Happiness was the main component in my life now, the dominant pattern in the tapestry.”
But even as all this happiness seems to be taking over Bella’s life, the entrance of a new vampire puts a great, dark streak across it. When Irina appears, immediately the thoughts of the other vampires return: there are others who will not be so pleased with Renesmee and Jacob, much less Bella. I keep wondering how the Volturi will actually react when they discover this news. Is Renesmee really that much of a threat to them? If the Cullens can stay hidden for so long, I don’t see why they couldn’t hide Renesmee just as easily.
–NOTES–
– Today’s post is shorter than usual because I have to pack and get ready for Twicon! I’ll have more info tomorrow!
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hands down that was the WEIRDEST part of the books for me… but I do think it could make an interesting sequel. So, when Jacob and Renesmee are making out by the lockers- and Edward and Bella walk up… that will be the perfect opening scene… at least in MY MIND haha!
Actually, it was the redeeming feature for me in the entire book! I love JacobxNessie. It's my favorite pairing! I know…I'm weird. I'm pretty up to date on how imprinting works. He'll be what she needs at the time, be it big brother, best friend, or boyfriend. It's a pretty cool thing.
NO IT'S NOT ALRIGHT.
I wanted Bella to kill him, to get a restraining order on him!
Shes only had nessie for 2 minutes and he thinks shes all hers.
GRRR
This is one of my favorite parts
it is pretty strange but is a twist that I in no way saw it coming
(I read the series b4 it was popular so not as many spoilers)
it's very interesting and makes me want to know what will happen
next between the two
not really…
but just think of Nessie and Jacob when they do start having feeling for each other…
what's more awkward? Edward hearing Jacob's or Nessie's lusty thoughts? or Being them, knowing Edward knows?
Ha, yeah that was wild. If i were bella i would have killed him, lol, but she loves him and saw reason whether she wanted to or not. As far as allowing him? Well I guess she understood enough to know it was beyond her control. Man I gotta read this book again, it was my favorite and this is just bringing it all back to me.
It's not like he chose to imprint on her. He was on his way to killing her when he imprinted. You read that part when you were jet lagged and everybody was freaking out telling you to go back and re-read it. Including me of course!
Anyways I just wanted to go back a bit and go to the fact where you were saying something along the lines of “Is Bella gonna be ready to be a mother in this short time she has to prepare?” You have seen Renesmee just a bit and I'm sure you can tell that she is not the average baby. She practically by now about two or three days old doesn't even really need her mother or anyone to care for her like a normal two year old. After you put this idea in my mind, I couldn't help but wonder, what is Renesmee was more like an actual baby? How would Bella handle that even with all the help? You make me think more Kaleb! That's why your sooooooo AWESOME!!!
I find it somewhat cute, but I feel that Jake shouldnt have imprinted on Renesmee, because she didn't have a say on this at all and she is still very young. And Jake should have thought before he imprinted on Renesmee.
I AM MAD AT JAKE, HE SHOULD HAVE IMPRINTED ON ME…. =[
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i think jacob imprinting on nessie is a good thing. cuz if nessie bites jacob nothing will happen but if she were to bite a human it may reveal what they are,kinda. and jacob is an okay guy (im team edward) so nessie will have someone good to be around..anddd jacob doesnt age so he can wait for nessie until she's fully grown (i think thats 15 idk i didnt understand that part) so they can be together forever. and edward doesnt have to worry about jacob being in love with bella cuz now jacob loves nessie and is just friends with bella. soo rlly it's perfect =]
i wish stephanie would write about nessie and jacob and how they continue. cuz we only got to know nessie for a few chapters rlly and haha it would be awkward for nessie and jacob to think about eachother in other ways and know that edward knows what there thinking
I thought Jacob imprinting on Renesmee is one of the creepiest things ever.
The whole thought bothers me entirely.
I really like Jacob & it makes me really sad/mad to have him imprint on a baby.
I don't like it at all.
I really wish Jacob just imprinted on a nice, normal girl, or even a regular vampire.
But I REALLY wish he got together with Leah.
That just would've been perfect.
I had some INTENSE views on this when I first read the book! I knew something like this was coming, though, because of the whole Quil imprinting on a two year old thing. But I found it (and still occasionally do) find it a bit gross. Becuase it was like “Oh, I was intensely in love with your mother, and dreamed about her having my babies, but you'll do…” But I know imprinting isn't like that… And it is quite nice. Like how Jacob explained it to Bella in Eclipse. That at first it's like being the best big brother ever, then the best friend ever, eventually turning romantic. Because seriously, how could you turn down total devotion?
OMG I NO! it was a really strange at first i was like WHAT?!?! but it kinda makes sense because Stephanie decided that she wanted the jacob lovers to have a happy ending too and since you would never expect that to happen, she then decided to do it that way.
i was still in totall shock when i first read it.
P.S love your movies..i watch every single one and can't wait for your book to come out 😀
I think Jacob imprinting on Renesmee is so wrong!!! I know how imprinting works but it is just so grose. That part really messed up the way I think of Jacob. Renesmee is a baby and Jacob is a teenager. Jacob may not physicaly change but he still gets older. It must be very creapy to think of the huge age difference. When I read this part the first time I offically peged Jacob as a creaper. My opinon hasn't changed any since then. I think Bella should have killed him. What sane person (or vampire) would let Jacob live after that!
i absolutly find it SICK that Jacob imprinted on Renesmee.
I would have preffered that he ended up with Leah.
the main reason BD is my least fave of the series. that is just me though 🙂
I did find it odd that you didn't mention the end of chapter 18. Even without being spoilered I knew immediately what had happened.
But I don't feel like it was wrong, nobody was too seriously weirded out when Embry imprinted on little claire, so this really isn't that different.
CV
I always loved Jacob (I even liked him better than Edward for Bella) but when he imprinted on Renesme that was a bit much for me. It made me feel bad for him because I feel like he just “imprinted” on her because she was Bella's daughter. Kind of like…if you cant have the guy you like, you date his brother or his cousin just because they remind you of him.
I dont think Jacob imprinted on her. Subconsciously he's still is and will always be hung up on Bella and will see her in Renesme.
But if he wants to tell himself that he has imprinted on Renesme then go right ahead. I would have preffered he imprint on a vampire. I like the irony of the wolf/vampire relationship.
I think it brough the book full circle. It shows that Bella was always supposed to be with Edward. They were supposed to have a child. Bella was supposed to be a vampire, and her child was supposed to end up with Jacob. Full Circle. No loose ends. Just needs a big shiny bow! 🙂
I gasped out loud when I read that part and had to think it through before I was okay with it. It's not as creepy if you understand imprinting. I think it does open the door for some serious sequel fodder. I love the way SM created someone great for Nessie. I think they make a great match. I also think that further on in the book we see why SM picked Jake to be with Nessie for whatever she needs when she needs it.
And yes, finally we can move on from the Jake/Bella thing. 🙂
I think Jacob imprinting on Renesmee really is a good thing. It's not creepy.
Renesmee became The Reason for Jacob – the reason to exist, live, love, anything. I think the love Jacob has for her is quite like a father loving his child. That kind of love is a good kind of love in my opinion!
If you set your mind with the book contest it's more than all right… it's absolutely perfect! *o*
Finally we've reached this point. I must step back to Quil imprinting on Claire, because I think the only reason that ever happened was so that we would already be exposed to the strange ways of imprinting, see that Quil does not act like some creeper while around her, which opened the path for us to not want to kill Jacob straight away. Not that it entirely worked.
I have no idea how you managed to avoid heading straight into the next chapter. This was one of those times I couldn't put the book down no matter what. I mean, who knows how long it'll be before you find out that she does, in fact, KILL HIM?? (I'm just kidding.)
It's a situation that I'm torn on, honestly. Imprinting has always seemed like the oddest thing, even when it happens to someone of their own age. To have one person who is beyond perfect for you, even if you don't realize it? Jacob absolutely HATED Renesmee until he absolutely LOVED her. It's odd, it's creepy, it's like being forced. It's also not nearly as rare as we were initially read to be. Seems like all the cool kids are doin' it. 😉
It also makes me wonder how powerful imprinting really is. Did imprinting actually cause Jacob to fall in love with Bella so that he would care enough about her to stop his brothers from killing her so that she could give birth in his presence to the child that would ultimately end up being his imprintee? Yeah, I know that's a run-on sentence, but how else do you say it? I can't imagine all of this stacks up to chance.
At first, I was mostly against it, then over time, I began to realize more and more how perfect it could be. The most fantastic part is that Bella can be completely happy with Edward, guilt free of Jacob, like it always should have been. He's been the thorn in the side of their relationship for so long, it's a nice breath of relief. I can't reveal any more without foreshadowing to some degree, but by the end, I can't imagine the series without her playing her part.
Just one more thing to add:
I'm not a big fan of the name Renesmee in the first place, but Jake found one I hated even more: Nessie.
Jacob's feelings for Nessie are not sexual, so I don't know what this whole issue about imprinting is. To me it's the same as when for example a teenage boy likes a little girl next-door, maybe a little sister of his best friend, and after some 15, 20 years when they are both adults, they fall in love. When she was a kid, he liked her as a sister of his best friend, a kid who was always around and was a bit annoying but still pretty cool. And then she gorws up into wonderful young lady and only then he realizes his feelings has changed. It's the same with Jake and Nessie or Quil and Claire.
I'm not actually a fan of imprinting¨but I don't have problems with it. And an idea of adult!Nessie being together with Jake is really sweet.
I'm absolutely delighted with it. As babybott330 said, look at Quil and Claire. We even had a scene with them earlier in the book, to help us really understand that there is nothing wrong or twisted about child-imprinting. I believe Jacob's idea that everything happened as it was meant to – he was protecting and preparing for his soulmate before she even existed. If that isn't proof of powerful love, I don't know what is. I know I'm going to get hated for this, but I think the real reason (in SOME cases) that people say the Jacob/Renesmee ship is “sick” is that they got too fixated on who THEY thought was right for Jacob (Bella, Leah, them, whoever) and now they're disappointed. It's the writer who tells the story, folks!
wel I think jacob imprinting on Renesmee makes the story complete. And for the story very important. it just was meant to be. more i don;t have to say without spoilering
Well, it feels, like you said, 'icky', the fact that Jacob imprinted on a baby. But, well, how weird and gross it may seem, it is explained and kind of 'okay' in the story. I don't líke is though. To me, it's a very cheap way of making everybody happy and making everything fall into place. I literally stormed downstairs after reading the last chapter (21, that is, I figured it out while I was reading the ending) and practically destroyed the juce-box when I was pooring myself something to drink. It's just so… not. I really do nót like it. Maybe I could overcome the baby-imprinting thing (I mean, Quill & Claire is icky too, but somehow less). What I find most disturbing is that it's Bella's freaking baby that Jacob imprints on. I mean, seriously. Have you thought of that? And Renesmee so has to find out about Bella's en Jacobs past somehow at some point (whether it happens in BD or afterwards, I'm gonna leave that out there). Can you imagine how that will go?
Renesmee: “You SNOGGED with my MOTHER?”
Jacob: “It meant nothing!”
Edward: *raises eyebrows questionally*
Renesmee: “And mom kissed you BACK?”
Bella: “… It was a long time ago, sweetheart!”
Yeah. Personally, I would flip. I would completely freak out – wheter I would've fallen in love with Jacob or not (wheter Renesmee falls in love with Jacob or not, she will freak out), the idea of my best mate/brother snogging my mother is disturbing as well. So… the imprinting I can handle (although I don't like the idea of imprinting at all – and it gets worse when it's on children). The 'I imprinted on your daughter after loving you for a few years' – that I cannot handle.
So no, I don't think it was okay voor Jake to imprint on Renesmee.
And Kaleb, I knew without being spoilered 😉 But well. Great post! Love the pictures xD
i think its fine that jake imprinted on her, cuz tho she is a toddler, remember it isnt a 'Love' thing yet, like between edward a bella and stuff like that. Jake and Reneesme love is like an uncle and niece kinda thing, or like he will be a big brother. tho it dose sound weird that these are the feelings they have now, and one day they will form to a real love between and man and a woman. sounds odd i know.. but we still all know how it works lmao…
I loved this part of the book! Not so much because everything gets settled between the confusing love triangle, but more of having a badass Bella narrate! The first time I read Breaking Dawn I had sort-of a grudge with Jacob from all his crap from the other books. “..and I lunged for his throat.” I couldn't help but being excited at that passage!
It will DEFINITIVELY get awkward once Renesmee reaches Jacob's age….*shudders*
It is very much alright, actually. I don't know why everybody's freaking out. If he imprinted, then okay, he just wants her to be safe and all. (not that I didn't feel like you when I read this chapter. Jacob really gets on my nerves sometimes) But it's okay with me.
ITS THE BESTIE-ESTIE-EST THING EVER! i'm so glad jake imprinted on nessie cause then he and bella will always be a part of each other's lives, but in a comfortable way. edward on the other hand might find it a bit awkward when nessie gets older (wink wink nudge nudge if you know what i mean) i really didnt want jake to have to leave (im team switzerland by the way) but i was so emotionally drained from the whole drama in eclipse and at the wedding… YAY FOR ALL
Well, the way you phrase the question seems like you're making it seem like Jake had a choice, which obviously he didn't. But it's like uber pedobear for him to imprint on a baby. Like, I get that it isn't romantic at all, not yet, but still. Plus, the Cullens will have to have a stinky werewolf lounging around forever. Yuck. And I feel that the whole imprinting idea in general takes the choice out of Renesmee's hands. I mean, it's practically an arranged marriage! I mean, if the imprintee was older, I dunno, it makes me feel like she'd have more choice. I mean, with Sam and Emily it's more like a more normal relationship. I mean, they meet and fall in love and get married. With people like Jake and Renesmee or Quil and Claire, the imprintee has known their whole life that they're going to be with the imprinter. So, is it alright that Jake imprinted on Nessie? Not in my opinion, but I don't like the idea of imprinting anyway.
Plus, the whole fact that Jake was in love with Bella for like a two years doesn't make it easier on Nessie. I mean, how would you, Kaleb, feel if you discovered that your hypothetical girlfriend once was madly in love with your dad. I think we should get that raising-eyebrows-awkward-picture out again.
I read this part of the book, and felt far too much anger inside then a twelve year old should. Basically it is Jacob's fault he imprinted. If he had never gone to find Nessie to kill her, then he never would have seen her because E&B would have kept Jacob away from Nessie because they knew that he wanted to kill her.
So yes, if Jacob didn't have homocidal tendencies, everything would be better.
My theory on imprinting is, if the person you will eventually imprint on, you haven't met yet, but you do know one of their relatives, you will feel some sort of affection for them. Sam loved Leah before meeting Emily, and Jacob loved Bella before meeting Renesmee.
I am angry. For another reason. Werewolves imprint to carry on the line, therefor, none of the werewolves could be gay. I wish Jacob was gay….And not in the 'gay for Edward' kind of way.
I laughed out loud when I read that part of the book. My family thought I was crazy or something. hahaha!
Jacob imprinting on Nessie was totally unexpected, she wasn't even a day old! But it would still be interesting to see how things work out for them. I mean, what would Nessie think when she finds out that the love of her life was once in love with her own mother?! She can't hate Bella, she's her mom! It would all be so weird.
I actually thought it was perfect, yet very unexpected, for Jacob to imprint on Renesmee. Reasons:
1) In the future, Jacob can still be a part of Bella's family and they can remain friends.
2) He doesn't age as long as he's a werewolf, so he can wait for Renesmee to grow older.
3) It just makes so much sense, that all along he thought he wanted Bella but he actually loves Renesmee.
I don't think it's THAT weird/gross/wrong because, as you pointed out, Edward knows exactly what Jacob's intentions are and would kill him if they were, you know, inappropriate. Jacob just loves her and cares about her, feelings that aren't so different than those of her parents. In my own opinion about imprinting, she was the one that he was meant to be with and I think he's happier knowing that he's found her and can still be friends with Bella. I'm not a huge Jacob fan but I do want him to be happy. It was meant to happen, for him to look at Renesmee and imprint on her. He doesn't have to tell her about how he thought he loved her mom and also wanted to kill her, at least not for a long, long time. He would do anything to make her happy and I think that is a good thing. I do understand 100% Bella's anger towards him, for obvious reasons- she's barely met her child and Jacob's already claimed her. I truly believe that this will all work out for the best in the future. (Sorry this was so long, I've been waiting a while to vent this out)
Well, trying not to give anything away, but this is REALLY where I started to hate Breaking Dawn. So no, I don't think Jacob should have imprinted on Nessie. Just think, someday Bella might be jake's mother-in-law. WEIRD.
lol @ “I'm pretty up to date on how imprinting works”
Like it's this thing that actually happens everyday in real life.
Embry didn't imprint on Claire, Quil did.
It makes me so sad that you hate Jacob this much. I HATED Bella for reacting this way, especially when she WANTED Jake to imprint. I thought it was adorable, not creepy, especially since Jacob means no harm, he's like Renesmee's big brother. I feel such compassion for Jacob, probably because I'm just like him, or at least I was, loving someone who loved me as well but just stringing me along until he married someone else…
Just give Jake a chance, he deserves it more than you think.
I am split right in half by the imprint.
I was reading the book overnight (the night it was released), and literally had to get up and walk around my sleeping house, trying to shake off the odd feeling I had over the imprint. But, that happened at the end of chapter 18.
I loved Bella's reaction (I'm a mom – and I wouldn't be happy about that, supernatural or not). It seemed kinda sick and twisted for a while. I was never one of the Leah/Jacob people, so that part didn't bother me.
But, as I read the rest of the book, I could see why the imprint was a central part of the story. It's important, it had to happen. And, it made sense in a strange way. Jake being drawn to the pregnant Bella, leaving his pack for the pregnant Bella, and standing by her side until the baby left the room, then being drawn down the stairs. I guess you could call it fate. It had to happen.
Oh, and Bella did think of her baby in the last couple of chapters, but was discouraged by the family. She wanted to keep her baby safe, so she hunted.
To me it felt a bit forced. Like SM really wanted Jacob to still be there and this was the only way to get him to stay…
at the begninning i was like “huh?! no way! Jake on Renesmee?! how can he?!!?!” but now i think they're great together 🙂 one of my favorite couples 🙂
I'm glad that I'm not the only person who thought this whole imprinting on babies/toddlers thing was weird. But has everyone forgotten that Edward is 107 years old and married to a teenager! Now that should be on an episode of “To Catch a Predator”….no pun intended 🙂
Oh and Bella would have every right to try and kill Jacob. And if Jacob hadn't imprinted on Nessie then all the drama that happens in the rest of book wouldn't have happened. Just look at the chain of events!
Well…I think Bella had the right to want to kill Jacob. I mean, seriously! Two seconds after Bella has the baby and Jacob thinks Nessie's all his. But it's more Jacob's attitude that bothered me than the actual imprinting. When I first learned that a werewolf could imprint on a toddler back in Eclipse with Quil and Claire, I'll admit I was reeeaaallly creeped out. But once Jacob explained it and said that Quil will become whatever Claire needs (brother, friend, ect.) I eventually came to like the idea a lot more. So it wasn't really that aspect that bothered me so much as Jacob being obnoxious.
4 reel that would be wierd!
Well, you know, it really wasn't Jacob's fault he imprinted. Remember when he TRIED to imprint on that one girl at the carnival(or whatever it was…I haven't read the book in a looong time)? Yeah, well, it didn't work, because imprinting is involuntary. Same reason Sam didn't imprint on Leah.
But then Bella obviously has a right to be upset, because well, like any mother, she's thinking “ohnoes my precious daughter has fallen in love!” and UNLIKE any other mother, she has to deal with the fact that her baby was just born, and hasn't fallen in love naturally: she was Imprinted on by Bella's best friend. And of course she only had the baby recently and only got to see her for a few seconds.
But that doesn't mean Bella had to be mad AT Jacob. Sure, she was frustrated(as any mom would be), but the way she yells at him makes it look like he chose to do it. I think, if he had the choice, he would have enough sense to think “hmm, well if I imprint on my best friend's newborn baby, I'll look like a pedophile.” So really she has nobody to blame but the laws of fictional nature.
Of course, I've always had the belief that Bella and Edward should be together because I hate them both and Jake's too good for Bella, so I might be biased.
Jacob as a character was kinda ruined for me when he imprinted on Renesmee. Not because I thought it was icky, but because of what it did to his personality. His description of the impression disturbed me–how everything he cared about before was replaced with this one new attachment. Pre-impression Jacob is angsty and rebellious; post-impression Jacob is this cheerful sap who can't survive without being within two steps of Renesmee at all times. Puh-lease. And maybe I've been Team Jacob all this time without realizing it, but I was *not* relieved to see his and Bella's love disappear so abruptly and completely. I actually found myself being jealous on Bella's behalf.
I don't think I like this business of imprinting at all.
I feel like the imprinting was necessary. And it cleared up a lot of problems. I like how Quil imprinted on a kid first, though. So at least we had a little time to get used to the idea. Good choice, Stephenie!
But really, I love Jacob. I don't see how a lot of people hate him so much. When I read some of the forum stuff (when I first got on the Internet in search of Twilight-related stuff) I couldn't believe it. I never hated him. I loved how funny he was. Jacob always cracks me up.
I really don't mind that Jake imprinted on Renesmee. First, I was shocked and I gasped a lot. Second, I laughed. A lot. And third, I was happy for him. At least he would stop moping around and finally get off Edward and Bella's backs. I don't think it was icky because Quil imprinted on Claire first when she was two. Like Jacob said about that, he'd be like a big brother to her. I liked this part =]
Also, I would be a little weirded out if my husband loved my mom before I was born… THAT part is icky.
One last thing…
“Question For The Comments: Do you think it was alright for Jacob to imprint on Renesmee?”
Sorry to be a know-it-all, but according to my english teacher and the dictionary, there is no such word as “alright,” there's only “all right” *smiles sheepishly*