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Reading Eclipse: Chapter 8 (Temper)

November 24th, 2008 at 12:05 am by Kaleb Nation

The song for this chapter is Pressure by Paramore [suggested by Ricky]

[audio:https://twilightguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/pressure.mp3|titles=Pressure by Paramore]

I realized suddenly this morning that anyone visiting my site for the first time probably has no clue what the main concept of it is, since the entire front page is covered with movie news. Who can blame me? Besides all the fun I had in LA and seeing the film, now we all know that New Moon will be a movie. For Summit, that means this franchise is nowhere near dying — for me, that means I get to enjoy another movie premiere sometime πŸ˜€

I had to do a bit of review to remind myself what had happened in the previous chapter, but as I was at a rather pivotal part it wasn’t hard recalling everything. Jacob had just appeared at Bella’s school, and was stealing her away to the beach again. Meanwhile, Edward is spontaneously combusting.

I found it a bit odd when Quil imprinted on a two-year-old, and it took me a bit of time to swallow it down and reason with it in my head. As anyone who visits the chat room knows, I have declared war on all creepers, specifically through use of my banhammer and threats to call Chuck Norris. So, I can’t help but feel at least a few creeper vibes from this at first. I am sure that I’m not alone in this.

But as usual, like with Edward always watching Bella and climbing through her window at night, you have to look at it from the perspective of Stephenie’s world. If something like this was to happen in the real world, 1-800-CALL-FBI would be punched on my cell quicker than Jacob’s temper. But the nature of imprinting, to me, is supernatural — almost a magic betrothal that spans across more than species or age. And since werewolves don’t age, it is simply a matter of waiting for the imprintee (?) to grow up. When you think of it in those terms, it takes a bit of the strange edge off.

I find it so funny how some people think that by simply adding ‘With all due respect’ to the beginning or ‘No offense intended’ to the end of a sentence, they are entirely excused from whatever they say. Jacob:

“You have the whole day off, right? The bloodsucker won’t be home yet.”

I glared at him.

“No offense intended,” he said quickly.

“Eat toads!” I said, spinning on my heels and pushing Jacob into the ocean, where he was attacked by piranhas and crabs.

It reminds me of a similar conversation I had with my web hosting company last week, when my sites were down the entire time of the premiere:

“Sorry sir,” said my web host. “But with all due respect, we’ve suspended you forever because you’re too popular, and we hate popular customers who have a gobzillion readers who will all hear of our horribleness and never buy from us again. No offense intended.”

“Eat toads!” I said, spinning on my heels and pushing my web host into Internet-hell, where they were attacked by piranhas and crabs.

or something similar.

Another thing I found in this chapter: an absolutely awesome band name! Jacob:

“C’mon Bella. Let’s go back to the house and get our bikes […]”

“I really don’t think I’m allowed.”

“By who? Charlie or the blood — or him?”

The Most Epic Rock Band Of All Time

The Most Epic Rock Album Of All Time

who would have thought?

After seeing the movie, I have suddenly taken a new perspective on a few of the characters. To be very honest, I haven’t really clicked with Alice much along the way. I don’t know why, but perhaps it was because I hadn’t developed a clear mental picture of her in the books.

But after seeing the Twilight movie, I have an entirely new outlook on Alice, and she is definitely one of my favorite characters. She seems to know exactly what to say at the right times, and she always seems to be positive when Bella needs it the most.

I find it very mature of Edward when he arrives back at the house, and suddenly finds it within him to accept that Bella might know what is best for herself. It was something I was not expecting from him at all. Until now, Edward has been very protective — overly protective at times — and now it seems that he is finally deciding to let Bella go a little, and give her some room to breathe.

Perhaps I’m looking too deep into this. But I feel strongly that a relationship should be built on trust, and it is that part of Bella and Edward’s that has been on the rocks ever since Jacob appeared. Of course, you can’t expect Edward to like Bella hanging around Jacob. No guy ever wants to see his girl with someone else — especially one who obviously would relish the idea of you falling from a bridge into a boat transporting poisonous vipers. If I was Edward, I don’t think I would trust Bella around Jacob either.

But the truth is that Edward probably doesn’t need to worry, because Bella is being strong to stay just friends with Jacob. Sure, Edward would really like her to stay away from Jacob entirely. But finally he is seeing just how much he can trust her — and that seems to show just how strong their love is.

Besides, I started laughing when Edward tensed up about all the female vampires in Denali. Edward Cullen is just far too loved. And as Edward said, Bella is far too funny when she is jealous πŸ˜€

Question for the comments: Do you think it is good (or safe) for Edward to start trusting Bella more? Also, do you think it is right for Bella to be seeing Jacob, when she becomes jealous just hearing about any other girls in Edward’s life?

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  1. Bekah

    Nope. Not a good idea. He should have explained that he didn’t want her to be around Jacob because it made him upset and to please choose him instead which she probably would have said yes too and the end of the book wouldn’t have happened! YAY! Of course a lot of people would have died too… hmm this is a tough one….

  2. Laura

    Wow. Because you’ve all been into the movie news, I forgot how funny you are! Toads, piranhas, crabs, band names, and vipers in one entry! Kudos!
    Actually, it’s not such a good thing for Edward to start trusting Bella more. I mean in New Moon she was all over motorcycles and cliff-diving. She’s only human and honestly doesn’t have the best judgement. However, they do need to trust each other more without having tension filled standoffs whenever a controversial subject is brought up. I love Edward’s reaction at the end of the chapter though. Lol.

  3. Angela

    Inprinting isn’t so much as a romantic love all the time. Basically, the imprintee just becomes the absolute most important person in the world to that werewolf. Imprinting is any kind of love that the imprintee needs. Like with Claire and Quil, Quil will just be the best, kindest big brother for her. And when she gets older, he will be her very best friend. And when she’s old enough to love romantically, they’ll be perfect for each other. This is all explained, I know….

    And actually, I do think it’s about time for Edward to start trusting her. You have to let the ones you love go. If they come back to you, then they’re yours. =]]

  4. Lu

    Kaleb, Edward is my favorite character in the series. My second fav. is Alice. I am glad she is one of your favs too.

  5. Elise

    I think it’s fine, she wouldn’t do anything unless Jake threatned to kill himself or something;) She loves Edward more than she loves Jake, ALOT more, so she’d proably be HAPPY for him to be moving on.

  6. Rakey

    Well, I don’t like Jake, so my opinion is quite biased.

    But– *yay* I’m Kaleb’s 4000th subscriber. I had no clue I wasn’t already subscribed.

  7. Kelly Deneen

    Yeah, as a mother of a 15-month old girl, the imprinting kind of freaked me out, but I did finally come to terms with it as being a supernatural and non-sexual thing.

    BTW, I just found your site tonight – sorry I missed out on earlier posts. I will have to go back and see your thoughts on other parts of the books.

  8. Mary_C

    I never felt anything creepy about the “imprintee” and the “Imprinter” (xD) having such age difference. I guess I immediately started thinking that Quil would wait, because after two books of a vampire thats virgin after more than a century I thought a warewolf could wait at list 15 years.

    Any ways, I know this is none of my business(why do I feel that that beginning is similar to the “no offense” ones?) but what are you gonna do after you finish all four books? I know that you do a lot of other twilight-related things apart form sharing your opinion of each chapter of x book, so what comes next when you’re done with all 4 books?

  9. Nutty Netty

    lol i am not freaked out about the imprinting thing πŸ˜›
    imprinting is not the same as finding your soul mate. it’s like the imprinter LOVES the “imprintee” so much but that doesn’t neccessarily mean they HAVE to love each other “that” way.

    I think Edward does trust Bella. It’s Jacob he doesn’t trust and that is understandable. the dood is a werewolf!!!! you gotta remember that these are VERY dangerous creatures. Edward knows he is dangerous, too, but he was slowly but surely able to trust himself around Bella. Jacob is another story. He is capable of losing his temper easily and with it his control. c’mon, are you going to tell me there is nothing to fear? i mean Edward being overly protective and Bella never really taking her own safety into consideration how can you (if you were Edward) trust her to be around Jacob?

    I’m glad that in this chapter Edward was UNDERSTANDING which led to his TRUST in Bella’s decision πŸ™‚

    the part on the couch made me go WOAH!! and my heart was racing with Bella’s! lol
    WOO Edward! haha c’mon! i wasn’t the only one πŸ˜‰ hehehe

  10. Ashley

    “Edward Cullen is just far too loved” lol….love it!

    ah, but he does deserve every minute of it…..

  11. Tianna

    Hi, Im sure you remember me from some point of this site.

    I just have to say that the fact that I was alread listening to ‘Pressure’, then see that it made the chapters song, was a bit weird for me.

    And I do think Edward should back off a little bit. I mean, as much as I love his character and all, I’d wish he would give Bella a little more breathing room. It can get quite suffocating.

    It’s also a normal reation to see your boyfriend/girlfriend hanging with someone of the opposite gender who they already know has affectionate feelings for them. But even if Bella is making sure that the line between ‘friendship’ and ‘relationship’ is obviously blurred a little around Jake, it is somewhat normal (in my opinion) that he begins to develope even deeper feelings for her.

    Sorry, but it sounds like Im rambling, which I was trying to avoid. And, God, does it sound like Im telling someone off, or what?

  12. Rebecca

    Don’t underestimate Jacob.
    It’s hard to see the first time you read the series, but he truly loves Bella. And Bella loves him… differently, but still. Edward couldn’t see that originally either. But it’s like Bella said, when Edward left, he left a hole in Bella. Jacob filled that hole… it’s not something that just goes away. What Edward realizes in this chapter is that by keeping Bella from Jacob, he runs the risk of reopening the hole… a slightly lesser hole, but nonetheless. He loves her too much to keep her from someone who makes her happy.

  13. Nazneen

    Well, Edward did not let Bella hang around with Jacob because he believes that Jacob could just simply mutate into a werewolf and hurt her badly just like Emily.

    Yes, Edward is jealous. But Edward could not have said no, because that would make Bella sad about hurting Jake’s feelings. Because all Edward wants is for Bella to be happy. Even if making her happy means to leave and let her start a healthy ‘human’ relationship with Jacob. Because Edward wants Bella to remain human.

    So, there’s no way that you could go and tell Edward to talk to Bella about how he is being jealous of her hanging out with Jake. Cause then that would make Bella hurt to see Edward hurting. And Edward would definitely hate himself for making her hurt! Oh boy, it’s so complicated. But I like it. :p

    (Okay, the first question cannot be answered. But Comment by DR #38 totally made sense.)

    Second question. No, she should not have been jealous.

    I think it is about time for Bella to realize that Edward would seriously, really, honestly, totally.. certainly… absolutely…. definitely….. unquestionably, doubtlessly, positively kill himself if that makes her happy. She really should see that, after everything he has done to keep her safe. So, she shouldn’t be jealous. Instead, she should be thinking about how SHE is making Edward jealous when she’s having lots of ‘humanly’ fun with Jacob. Somehow she’s not seeing that. That Edward wants her to be human, how he wishes HE is human. So that he would love Bella. The way he thinks Bella should be loved.

    Geez, Bella was kind of irritating. But it’s alright. Bella is after all, human. πŸ™‚

    Oh and, Alice is a must-be-a-favorite character for each and every Twilighter!

    KALEB, YOU’RE THE MAN!

  14. Veralea

    Hmmm… To the first, yes. I think that Edward should trust Bella more. Especially with this, since Jake was there when she needed him, and it’s impossibly heart-breaking to not be able to be with your best friends.

    But as for that second question – Bella is really being a hypocrite! Just HEARING about Edward and another girl makes her jealous, when HE has to watch her and Jake, and hear his thoughts – that couldn’t exactly be the cleanest thing – and then go through so much to try and make her happy, even though it’s wrong and not what he would even consider until she brings it up. He would go through so much for her, and I think that even though she is thouroghly aware of it, she might take it for granted sometimes. Or, maybe she just isn’t aware of how much he would – or could – do.

    Yeah, Bella is a bit irritating sometimes. Especially later on in the book. Just a heads up.

    Now, for my add-ins…
    HAHAHA! ‘Eat toads!’ Hee hee!
    And of course! You absolutely MUST love Alice. She’s like the perfect sister. Alice is Alice. And I thought it was funny, too. Edward is… well, as you said it. Just far too loved. And Bella’s funny when she’s jealous. I can agree with you there, too.

    ILUA!

  15. Veralea

    ps.
    But, then – to the first – if Bella knew how much Edward was hurting, then she’d feel terrible, then Edward would feel terrible. And then Jake’d feel terrible ’cause Bella’s feeling terrible and guilty and bad. To the latter – I think.

  16. Devon061381

    LOL I agree with Veralea’s “ps” above. However, yes I think Edward should trust Bella more, but I also got extremely pissed off with Bella by the end of Eclipse with how she handles things with Jacob. But this will all get resolved in Breaking Dawn and you will forgive Bella for pissing you off because she may not have executed the connection with Jacob well, but she has gut instincts that are pretty good.

    She still pissed me off though. haha

    And Alice is my #2 fave behind Edward. I love Alice!

  17. Chrissie

    Yes, I think it;s safe for Edward to trust Bella more. It’s Jacob you have to be worried about. Bella would’d just leave Edward, I, sorry, Bella loves him too much. Edward has nothing, bar Jacob, to worry about.
    I think the imprinting thing is soo cool! wow! But in breaking dawn, you’ll probably find it more weird.
    Alice is one of me Favourite charcuters too. But Edward’s first!

  18. Wendilynn

    For those who keep commenting on how Edward gets too extreme. Keep in mind that Edward is a Vampire. Vampires in Steph’s world do not have any internal system for controlling emotions or reactions. So when they feel an emotion its extreme every time and it takes time to learn to deal with that. Its what makes newborn vamps so unpredictable and dangerous, they usually aren’t prepared in any way for the extremes in emotion to control them. Reminds me of my three year old. πŸ˜›

    So yes, Edward does overreact many times because this is new for him, he was never in love as a human and until Bella was never in love as a vampire. And he is learning how to deal with all that for the first time.

  19. Jamie

    I think it’s kinda wrong that Edward would go out of his way to do anything for Bella, b

  20. kassia

    Just wait Kaleb, the imprinting gets weirder! The imprinter sees the imprintee in any way that the imprintee wants them too. The first instinct of the imprinter is to give the imprintee whatever they want, and when you are two, all you want is people to play with you and feed you and be with you, so that’s what Quil does. When she gets older, her wants and needs change, so Quil would change to fit to her. When you read BD, trying not to give anything away here, it will make more sense, and you can see that imprinting isn’t necessarily sexual, just responding to the needs of the other person.

    Also, Edward is a vampire, and when you experience emotions as a vampire, they are extreme, and the vampire has to learn to deal with the strong emotions. That’s why Edward loves Bella so much, and why he would do anything for her, in such an extreme way. Bella is also as we know extremely accident prone and constantly running into supernatural trouble, when she is just a fragile human. I’m sure her motorcycle riding and cliff diving and believing she was dead was enough to scare him into being over protective. But because these are strong vampire emotions towards a human, he needs to learn to deal with them and make them fit to a human standard. He is being over protective, but he is sending his accident prone girlfriend into the arms of a young temperamental werewolf who loves her too and will do anything to have her instead. Really, I think his emotions are legit for a vampire, but he does need to learn to trust Bella more with her decisions. She may be just a human, but being with Jacob makes her happy, and Edward would never do anything to make her unhappy.

  21. kassia

    Oh, also, don’t ever ever ever underestimate Bella’s love for Jacob. Or Jacob’s love for Bella. it’s stronger than you would initially think, as you will read later. Jacob may just be a teenage wolf, but he has feelings for Bella that rival Edward’s. And it will be explained later! So get reading!

  22. kassia

    Only one more comment, i promise.

    Bella does have the right to be jealous, but there should be no reason for this. It’s quite annoying that they can’t read each other’s minds, then they would know how much each of them mean to each other. Bella is quite annoying that way though. It’s like she refuses to admit that Edward might actually love her. Edward is the same way with Bella, but at least he has reason. If Bella wants Edward to trust her with Jacob, she needs to trust him with someone that she has never met before. At least Edward knows his competition.

  23. vivs

    πŸ™‚ yea!!! the page is back on!!! and i just finished voting for ur website. right now u are at number 11. but i know that sooon enough youll be back to where u were.so yeah. i owuld answer ur question but i must leave right now so i might come abck toanswer it later.

    btw: nice post! “charlie or the bloods” LOL! :d

  24. samantha

    hahaha
    great post! This is one of my favorite chapters.

  25. Rachel

    “Edward Cullen is just far too loved” lol, so true, but we love him even more just for that.

    This is one of my favorite chapters (actually, any Edward Bella chapter is one of my favorite chapters, but that’s besides the point), mostly because they’re on a huge bed basically making out…kidding. Though I do love fluff, and we finally see some boundaries being pushed (waggles eyebrows).

    Jacob can go drown himself. I’m sorry, but Jacob is a complete jerk in Eclipse. You’ll see why about 6 or 5 chapters or so from the end. (Also the highlight of any Team Edward’s argument against Jacob). The way he acts during the point I’m talking about really struck a nerve with me, for personal reasons. But I’ll get to that when you do.

    Huh. I never thought of that. I guess Bella is being hypocritical somewhat. I wouldn’t trust her with Jacob anyway. She’s far to lenient. She could never be a middle school or high school teacher. She has no idea how to lay down the law with adolescent teenage boys.

    Anyway, love your sight — whoops, I mean site. Or maybe INsight? hmm…

  26. Wendilynn

    I can appreciate Bella’s jealousy toward the Denali clan. I grew up being teased in school all the time. I completely get her insecurity in not feeling exciting, beautiful, graceful or amazing enough. To her eyes Edward is the best and deserves the best and she just isn’t really the best…at anything. Of course, the flip side is that Edward doesn’t consider himself “good” enough for Bella. That she deserves someone who isn’t essentially a walking nightmare. What always thrills me about them is that they love each other so much and they aren’t willing to give up on the other. Despite all the obstacles, they fight for what’s important…each other.

  27. Juni

    “Meanwhile Edward is spontanously combusting…” lol
    I thought that was hilarious. Stephenie said once somewhere that Edward’s biggest flaw was overreaction. He knows that by letting Bella spend time with Jacob he is risking her life by letting her stay over at a werewolf’s place…whether it be jelously, her safty, or his prediduce against the wolfs thats keeping him from letting bella go, he finnally seems to realize that maybe he should let bella off her leash. lol
    Still this is risking his chance of bella staying with him if bella were to decide that jacob is better for her. Like you said, this is a big test of trust for both of them.
    Also,to answer your other question… I think bella doesn’t see how jealous he really is and if she did she would feel bad about leaving Edward.
    Nice Post!

  28. Carrie

    I think Edward always trusted Bella, but he was afraid Jacob would lose control one day and hurt her. I don’t blame Bella for being jealous of Tanya. She considers herself very plain and vampires are gorgeous, so of course she feels a twinge of jealousy at the thought of Rosalie or Tanya possibly being interested in Edward at one time. It’s not like she went on a jealous rampage or anything. As for Bella hanging out w/ Jacob, my feeling is that once a guy tells you he wants to be more than friends and you already have a boyfriend, it’s time to cut him loose. It’s unfair to everyone involved if you try to pretend that the guy is just your friend. Plus, Jacob hates Edward and his family, which only makes things worse. Bella is in a tough situation. I would feel weird about spending time w/ a guy I know is in love with me while I’m in love with someone else.

  29. Clara Renee

    Edward needs to get a grip. He’s way to overly protective and overbearing and untrusting and if it was any other guy i would swear he was abusive too. He needs to calm down, he says he wants Bella to live her life but how can she do that if he’s constantly having her in a little bubble wrapped box? Jacob lets her actually LIVE. (That’s why if it was my choice I would pick Jacob over Edward)

  30. Cara

    Ay, no. As is well known, Edward starts off Eclipse being too overprotective… and then becomes much too underprotective, which causes… ahem. You will see.
    RIGHT for Bella to see Jacob? It sort of depends on how you look at it. If you look at it in favor of Edward, it isn’t, really- then again, Edward cares more about Bella than himself, so that’s not the biggest deal to him- as long as it makes Bella happy… which brings me to if you look at it from Bella or Jacob’s perspective, it is right because Jacob kind of needs her, and it’s probably healthy for Bella to have someone else to hang out with besides Edward… or not…

  31. Bella minus the B.

    I felt the same way about Alice! I never felt very attached to her and could never get into her head. Thank God for Ashley Green!

  32. alice

    ill keep it short and sweet.
    i think edward should trust bella more, but he should trust jacob less…
    and i like bella hanging out with jacob. it makes the story more interestion πŸ™‚

  33. Tanya

    I have to agree with the gal who said once you know a guy likes you and you don’t feel that way for him you should cut him loose. I kept shaking my head all the way through Eclipse. We see a side of Bella through the end of this book and even into BD that is painful b/c it reminds us that she is really very human. She keeps hurting these two people who love her so much by trying to pretend she can keep both of them around at the same time. It doesn’t work. There’s a difference b/t having male friends and having male friends who ADMIT they are in love with you. My husband (and most boyfriends, including Edward) would have real issues with that. I know it does not make for as exciting reading, but in a perfect world, she would have cut Jacob loose long before BD.

  34. Sarah

    Funny post this time. Funnier than usual, actually. 1-800-call-FBI, that’s awesome! For standing up against creepers everywhere, I want to thank you. Thanks!

  35. JC

    Answer: yes, it it hypocritical, but that is the great thing about Edward and Bella; they are both flawed, yet they overcome these flaws and love each other.

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  36. Emily

    Just a little question for you Kaleb.
    Have you read the outtakes and extras for twilight and new moon. srry if you’ve already read them, just asking. b/c i would really like to know what u thought of them.
    ECLIPSE SUCKS!
    Twilight fuh-ever

  37. Reading Eclipse: Chapter 9 (Target)

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  38. Kayp

    Okay. I believe that it is a good thing for Edward to start trusting Bella more but I understand where his extreme-hyper-protective ways come from. I mean he’s been a vampire for HOW LONG and who has he fallen for that we know of …uhh, nobody. So his first love of his forever life he’s going to go head-over-heels for!! It only makes perfect sense–all those decades passing by and by the time the sparks fly you have like a hundred years worth of passion bottled up, hehehe. And I mean she is human after all. This happens in the “human” world all the time. People start being more than friends but of course each of them has “girl” friends and guy “friends” and certain ones make us quirk because we get nervous and apprehensive and protective. Its all normal stuff. And understandably she loves Jacob in her own way. How hard is it to stay away from someone you love??? I think Bella and Edward have proved that point for us am I right. πŸ˜€ Hahah.

  39. April

    Edward is all about extremes. He can be over-bearing in one minute, then let it fly the next. He realizes that Bella will continue to find a way around him, so he goes to the extreme opposite end of the spectrum by letting her go without supervision.
    As for Bella, Jake sewed up the wounds Edward left behind in New Moon. While she doesn’t see or want to admit it, there are some feelings there. There is still so much more coming, so I look forward to your reactions!

  40. Maddy

    Do you think it is good (or safe) for Edward to start trusting Bella more? Also, do you think it is right for Bella to be seeing Jacob, when she becomes jealous just hearing about any other girls in Edward’s life?- exactly… you’d think she would UNDERSTAND a little more.. even if he is overreacting.. pshh… I feel like Bella is always oblivious to Edward’s feelings…

    also, like I said before.. one thing I love about Edward besides his sarcasm (<3) is how he can admit he is wrong and compromise.

  41. Megan

    every time i leave you a comment, i feel so late compared to everyone else, but i just discovered you on january 5. No its not hypocritical. jealous is not an emotion you can control, it is how you react to the jealousy that matters. She didnt try to have him kidnapped and held in the house as opposed to going to Denali, although thinking about it now, the opportunity never arouse, so who knows what she would have done right? Edward is not wrong, just inexperienced. Having never been in love before, he is bound to make mistakes, which is normal. Its realizing the mistakes and learning from them that counts, which he did. He compromised with her, which is one of the stepping stones to a good relationship.Love, Trust, Honesty, Communication, and Compromise. I think those things may be the reason that females swoon over Edward Cullen, and Jacob Black. It has nothing to do with their looks. These two characters understand that their relationship with bella is not about just about what they want. Thats the truest thing that i took from the books, anyways. Sorry, i rambled. happy readings!

  42. Michelle

    With all due respect…. (right? LOL) Imprinting is one of the things I’ve referred to in the past as something that out of context is extremely hard to swallow but somehow Stephenie seems to make it okay in her world. At this point in the book, I didn’t even see Edward finally allowing Bella to see Jacob as any kind of trust on his part. Even as he says that he would like to know her plans in advance so that he can make his own plans and not sit around waiting for her, it seems like a ploy. Even when he tells her that he’s really not trying to upset her and that he’s really okay with this, I can just feel the film of lies and jealousy engulfing me. I really don’t think it was meant to be taken like that, but I just can’t grasp he’s all of a sudden okay with this. I am completely for him deciding not to try to stop her anymore, but just agree to disagree on this one instead of trying to look like the big man. Sometimes Edward is such a pushover that I want to slap him (even though I’m totally Team Edward!!) For everyone that’s read all the way through, you know what I mean. Just once, it would be nice to see Edward flip out and raise his voice a little!

  43. Victoria

    I have laughed so hard reading this one! I love that cover!!! I don’t know why I found it so funny!
    I do think that it is good that Edward starts to trust Bella. Realtionships need trust. I was getting irritated at Edward for being so over protective! I also do think it’s safe, but maybe not all the time.
    I don’t like Bella seeing Jacob. I can’t stand him! I don’t know why he doesn’t undertstand that he can never get her! Bella falls for anything he says. She needs to realize that hanging with Jake makes Edward jealous, just like Edward being with the Denali’s makes her jealous.

  44. Amanda D.

    Jacob hates Edward for what he is. Edward hates Jacob for what he is, too. What’s funny is that neither one of them is WHAT they are. Sure, Bella found a vampire and a shape shifting wolf, but they’re the exceptions to their kind. Jacob, for instance, is very in control of his phasing even though he is young and temperamental. Edward denies his bloodlust for his “singer” because of his love for her. Bella is also the exception. Her being Edward’s mind reading exception probably saved her life in my opinion. Her knowing about the supernatural saved her friendship with Jacob after his change. She is naive and I admit she’s a bit callous with how she treats Jacob. But I doubt anything she says would sway him from his mission. She is inconsiderate of Edward though. She should be more understanding of his feelings. But once again they both get what they give. Edward’s overprotectiveness is not totally unjust, but he is so extreme.

    Protectiveness is an attractive trait, but Edward being Edward goes to an exreme and is OVERprotective, which is not so attractive. He’ll do anything for Bella though. And he’s the mature one because somebody has to be. Bella should be more careful with Edward than she is though. I think Edward’s decision to allow Jacob and Bella more openly has less to do with trusting Bella than it does with not wanting her to resent him. I think Edward trusts Bella in the relationship sense. I don’t believe he doubts her fidelity just her judgment.

    I, by far, relate to Edward more than Bella even though I’ve been a teenage girl and will never be a century old vampire. He loves her unconditionally. Jacob is a condition, and he learns to let it go. I think he knows that Bella prefers him and loves him more, but he has to know from Jacob’s thoughts that Bella has some love for him too. He won’t make her choose because he blames himself for the whole situation. Sure Jacob’s presence in her life MAY be his fault, BUT her devotion to him is completely her cross to carry. I think it’s easier for him if he just blames himself. He’s worried for her safety, and Bella would more than likely hurt herself trying to see Jacob, and that is something Edward would not forgive himself for. Also, the whole situation is not black and white for Edward. He can’t truly hate Jacob Black for several reasons. He did protect Bella when he left. He also could give Bella a life than Edward cannot. Selfless Edward wants Bella to pick Jacob and choose life, so it would be wrong to remove him from her life. Selfish Edward wants Jacob to disappear and leave his Bella be, but he also doesn’t want to give Bella any reason (besides the vampire thing) to leave him. I actually find Edward far more selfless than Bella. Edward can leave and let Jacob win if it’s what Bella needs. It’s far more than should ever be asked of anyone, and he considers it often as hard as it would be for him. He’s admirable.

    Imprinting… yeah. I still think Quil is a little creepy even after I know I shouldn’t. I was okay with imprinting until Claire. That made me think. After the explanation and considering the unimportance of time, I can see it though. If you think about it, it’s far less exreme than Edward and Bella’s age difference. Edward didn’t change Bella’s diaper though, so that’s the wrench in that comparison.

    This is also one of my favorite chapters and I’m terribly ashamed to admit why. I don’t get all giddy and girly at any other scene in the books… not the first kiss or any other more deserving scene. The couch… yeah that does it for me. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s the pitfall of my mind- it’s home in the gutter. The reunion, no Charlie, the presence of the bed, Edward’s forgiveness, the comparison of Edward’s words to the last ones Jacob said… to me, it’s just kinda hot. Haha. I’m 21 years old and that couch makes me a tad too pre-teen giddy.

  45. 10114

    Hi. I was bored so I got on this website. But I still think that the post on this chapter was great. i loved this book and what you said was soooooooooo true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. Jude

    I think it's a bit unfair to Edward how jealous Bella gets, but then it is Edward Cullen, and the whole world is in love with him.
    I absolutely LOVE reading your posts, you put a new prospective on everything.
    I can't wait until you get to chapter 22! Favourite chapter out of all four books!

    Also i died laughing at that picture of the toad lmao

  47. Jude

    I think it's a bit unfair to Edward how jealous Bella gets, but then it is Edward Cullen, and the whole world is in love with him.
    I absolutely LOVE reading your posts, you put a new prospective on everything.
    I can't wait until you get to chapter 22! Favourite chapter out of all four books!

    Also i died laughing at that picture of the toad lmao

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