The song for this chapter is A Little More by Skillet
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The curious thing about taking a rest in the middle of the day is that sometimes, you simply do not wake up as soon as you had planned. Obviously, having been tired out from not doing my Calculus, I took a nap intended to be short and woke up 4 hours later: still not having read another chapter in Eclipse. Goes to show I need to either get more sleep, or seriously consider becoming one of those vampire folk.
I find Charlie so amusing. It is so very obvious what he wants, and that is for Bella to forget about Edward, fall deeply in love with Jacob, and make Billy Black, his best friend, also his relative through Bella’s marriage. It is the epitome of a dream wedding for Charlie: except for the fact that the bride doesn’t want to marry Jacob. She wants Edward Cullen, whom Charlie despises and has no qualms with making unwelcome in his house. This is understandable. As previously stated, Bella is insanely in love with Edward — Charlie’s observations stop at the ‘insane’ part.
Charlie, later on, attempts a rather awkward attempt at conversation with Bella about her and Edward’s developing … erm … relationship. I can think of many things Charlie would rather talk about, including:
1. Ingrown Toenails
2. Leprosy
3. The Blobfish
but he seemed absolutely determined to exercise his parental role and give Bella a good talking to. Not like he got much of anywhere (except the resulting chortles and chuckles coming from yours truly).
“Just tell me that you two are being responsible,” Charlie pled, obviously wishing a pit would open in the floor so that he could fall in.
If anything, the title of this chapter is exactly what Bella was practicing; and quite well I might add:
I sprinted for the stairs.
Good move Bella.
For Edward to so forcefully try to convince Bella to go see her mother tells me all is not well in Forks. It makes me wonder — what is happening in that town that makes him so intent on having her out of there that weekend? Even Bella notices it, and so I am wondering if he knows something we do not… something that Alice saw, perhaps? Maybe he hopes to convince Bella to leave town for that weekend, and avoid whatever it is that Alice had predicted.
I will admit that sometimes, I do not agree with what Edward does. Please, steady your nooses, blunderbusses and guillotines, comrades. The fact is that Edward intentionally sabotaged Bella’s truck so that she could not leave, and that is something than can be taken two ways. Many people might think that Edward, by doing this, is pretty much forcing Bella to do what he wants, rather than what she wants. So what if she wants to see Jacob? Does Edward really have a right to tell her not to?
However, what causes me to trust Edward is the fact that because he is a vampire, and because he knows so many things through Alice that Bella does not, he is probably acting in a way to protect Bella. He nearly lost her once, and probably is paranoid about losing her again. But it makes me wonder where the line is drawn? Is Edward really acting to keep Bella safe, or is it to keep Bella from La Push? One is in Bella’s best interest, but the other is in Edward’s.
I haven’t read far enough to know for sure what his motivation is for this, but it seems that Edwards has been overwhelmingly unselfish so far, and I don’t know why he would change now. That is why I still believe that he is doing this to protect her… and perhaps a tiny bit of his own selfish loathing towards Jacob, who has been trying to steal his girl for some time now. Edward may not be human, but he is still a man 😀
QUESTION FOR THE COMMENTS: Do you think Edward has gone too far by sabotaging Bella’s truck, or is he just doing his best to protect her?
——NOTES——
– Someone recommended Overprotected by Britney Spears for this chapter. In order to avoid my already imminent hanging, I declined.
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188 Responses
great pick on the song. i love skillet, is my favorite band.
Edward is an overprotective stalker FREAK. And like someone said, he may love her and blah blah blah but she isn’t his little puppet that should have to do whatever he wants for whatever stupid reason.
The first time I read the part where he tore her truck apart I was pissed because umm… HELLO? He’s the one who left Bella, and Jacob’s the one who fixed her, so if she wants to hang out with Jacob then jeez louise let her do it! Be GLAD she has someone like that! But nnoooooo Edward is just an ungrateful little wretch. Like, seriously.. I bet as a human he would have been a woman beater. He needs to get some help. Of course, this is a fictional character I’m talking about..
Sorry, major ranting.
Ya’ll can yell at me if you want to.
good move on declining Britney Spears’ song, Overprotected 🙂
To answer your question: To me as much as I love Edward I think thats a little much. But hey that at least means he loves her. 🙂
Um… I can’t answer the question. Not really at least, because I hate Jake anyways. If Edward kept him out of the book just this much longer, then go him.
Also, I just wanted to tell Charlie this part (as I laughed my head off), that, gee, she’s been grounded. Stuck at the house. And Charlie was right there everytime Edward was near her: besides school. There was no time for them to be doing anything. Besides that night. When, huh, Esme and Carlilse were home. Imagine that…
Okay, I’m done being sarcastic. I love Charlie, he’s one of my favorite characters in the series. But, seriously… he’s so… stupid/naive sometimes. Well, not stupid… more blonde. I don’t know.
Happy reading!
Well…..First off let me say I cracked up when you were all afraid that people were going to hurt you for speaking (mildly) bad things of Edward. Yeah, that was halarious.
But, since your number is undoubtably up with your transgression, it was probably quite wise of you to refrain from putting Brittany Spears as the song………… That could result in unecessary torture.
Also, the blobfish is scary. *shudders*
Well, now on to your question: I do find it to be over the limit, but I know that it wasn’t done intentionally. He is completely worried for her and yeah, is completly jealous of Jacob. It reminds me of when Charlie dinked with her truck earlier. And he really thinks that she could get seriously hurt while there (Lord knows that she’s been seriously hurt before………)
#88 Chelsea: Yeah, I understand his motivations, too (as all of us here, do too) BUT that doesn’t mean what he did was right. It was actually very wrong. There just isn’t any excuse. Sorry. I don’t care how supernatural their love is, or how B and E are each others’ worlds, or that Edward sparkles, OR that Bella is a ‘Danger Magnet,’ there just isn’t anything that made how Edward treated Bella right. I understand his motivations and and fears very well, though. He just didn’t go about addressing them in the right manner. I supppose he couldn’t help it though, seeing how Meyer gave him the tragic flaw of overreaction. Still, I was quite put out with Edward during most of Eclipse, even after he let Bella do as she wished, which is why it’s not my favorite book. It took me awhile to forgive him. But I won’t forget what he did. He is not the only character, fortunately who showed their uglier side in the book, so it was fair on both sides. After reading this, you may find it surprising that EDWARD IS MY FAVE CHARACTER! Only because Bella annoys me to NO end. (In every single book. Literally.) As for Jacob, well he is tied for fave character, too. What makes me like them most is that their flaws make them most human, no how far away they are from it. I just don’t always like the consequences of those flaws.
To Sarah W.:
Every single character in Eclipse does stupid things. Edward can’t find a medium. Bella keeps hurting everyone. Jacob is too forceful. They are all at fault. Edward does overreact, but it’s because he loves her so much and he wants what’s best for her, whether he’s included or not. It’s got nothing to do with the fact that he’s supernatural or that he sparkles or that Bella’s a danger magnet. He is trying to help her, he just can’t figure out the best way.
I’ll argue and defend other characters whenever their faults come up in Eclipse =)
I feel like Edward’s acting in her best interests & to keep her safe, but as a girl who doesn’t take well to feeling controlled & ordered around when I’m capable of running my own life & making my own decisions, I’d be furious if a boyfriend did such things to me.
nah, even if he did she’ll forgive him.
Oh well Heather, we’ll have to agree to disagree then. I still forgive him, though 🙂
Dude. I love Edward Cullen, ok? Don’t get mad. But seriously? If you wanted to go visit your best friend who you haven’t seen in weeks, and then your boyfriend (or girlfriend, i guess) busted your car ON PURPOSE. Of course he can put it back together, but my God. Overreaction much??
Don’t even get me started on Edward taking Bella’s truck down. *shakes head* I’ve been through this a million times and I know I’ll have to go through it a million more.
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! HE DID! Can’t he understand that Bella has her own mind and her own friends and needs some time to be with those friends. I mean, if Edward really wants to be with her forever, shouldn’t he be more open to the things that Bella wants to do now, while she still can as a human? Edward’s just being selfish and forcing Bella to do what he wants in a way that is FAR past overprotective.
Jacob is a healthy escape for Bella and I think we all know it, deep down. He’s there for her, as a friend, though he wants to be more. Personally, I think Bella’s to blame for this since she completely played him on for a while, but whatever. Bella deserves to get out and have some fun. It would be different if Jacob was just the only one in La Push, but the entire La Push pack, come on? What’s going to get that far past them? Can’t Edward get out of that perfect little place in his head where he’s the greatest thing and believe that other people can protect his “precious” Bella too?
everyone seems to be forgetting that jake and bella are not just friends.not too far back in new moon she was about to break down and replace edward with jacob.obviously edward being edward will do whatever he has to do to protect bella if her future disappears.im surprised in eclipse how much freedom edward allows bella to spend with another guy.he is her boyfriend after all(and stephjenie agrees)and its outrageous the way bella keeps getting angry at her boyfriend for expecting her loyalty and cooperation and how she never gets mad at jacob no matter how rotten he is to edward.if jake was just a friend it would be different but he clearly wants more than that from bella.
Edward is just protecting Bella from the werewolves. He knows how dangerous they are if they lose their tempers.
😀
Wowwww Jessica L., have you read the books? If you had, then you would realize that Edward doesn’t think like that at all, in the slightest.
And as for Jacob being a healthier choice for Bella, it’s not true. Because there was always that threat of imprinting, and now because of Breaking Dawn, it’s a MOOT point (haha Kaleb).
Hello Kaleb, I think that Edward did the right thing in his mind because he is trying to protect, Bella from possibly dissapearing forever and/or what Alice saw. However I also think that 10% of his motive for sabatoge is a little jealous toward Jacob because for one he is at least half human.
Everyone looks at it from the perspective of would it be ok in real life if a boyfriend sabotaged your vehicle, in real life no. but this isn’t a normal situation. It’s a reasonable reaction for an extreme situation. The real issue is in real life would it be ok with you if your boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife wanted to keep a friendship with someone who hates you and who is in love with your significant other and don’t hide the fact that they’re after more than friendship through any means necessary. Now consider that this person also has a record of breaking into uncontrollable violent rages.
Now look at Edward and Bella’s relationship. Edward has two legitimate reasons for telling Bella to stay away from Jacob 1. Both he and bella know Jacob wants more than just a friendship. and 2. He’s potentially dangerous.
Now to the first reason, to those who’ve said Edward’s stopping her from going to see a ‘friend’ it’s more than that. If Bella was going to hang out with mike or Angela, he wouldn’t stop her. Unlike what some people have been claiming here Edward does not try to limit Bella’s social life. Normally he’s the one encouraging her to have other relationships, even relationships that could develop into more. In a normal relationship if your partner refused to give a “friend” like Jacob it would be potential grounds for breakup/divorce on the first reason alone. Now add to that the fact that Edward, as a vampire, is incapable of ever falling out of love with Bella. In many ways he is the one most trapped by this relationship. Yet even with that he’s not only willing that Bella should find someone else to love he encourages it. Edward is the only one who’d be left completely devastated if that happened. If this were a normal relationship than for the first reason Edward has the right as a boyfriend to ask Bella to stay away from Jacob. And it would be selfish to try to continue a relationship like the one between Bella and Jacob. But Edward doesn’t object to the relationship on those grounds even though he has every right. He objects for the second reason, b/c he’s worried for Bella’s safety. Because he loves her that much. To him having Bella leave him and love someone else would be hell but he’d endure it, but to have her die… that he couldn’t stand.
I really didn’t like Edware, Bella, or Jacob in this book. They all did very questionable things. But I think we all can be that way when situations arise that we don’t quite know how to handle.
Edward was really overreacting in this chapter and that was wrong but he is trying to figure out how to handle the situation and is willing to improve when he realizes his mistakes.
Bella is very unwilling to look at herself in this book and that cause alot of problems for all of them. She really is the problem in this book not Edward and Jacob!
Jacob in this book also really crosses the line in one of these chapters and his actions are as bad if not worse than what Edward did to the truck. Lets not forget about that! So for me, both guys didn’t act very well in this book. But no fear it all works out very well in the end for all of them.
Edward, Bella, and Jacob are all wonderful characters we just get to see other sides of them in this book. I really enjoyed that.
As this is a much-pondered question on my part, I have my answer all ready and formulated for you:
Did Edward go too far?
No.
From his knowledge, Jacob is extremely unsafe for Bella.
Now, his actions could be misconstrued as abusive (and often are) but…
the deciding factor is Edward’s INTENTIONS.
Were he intending to be abusive, then Bella would probably want to get some help.
But-
his actions are always for Bella’s good… and we all saw what happened the last time harm came to Bella.
So…
No, I don’t think so.
No I don’t think he’s gone too far.
Bella’s plenty selfish throughout this book, nothing compared to Edward is right now. None of us can put ourselves in that situation. Bella almost got devoured by a sadistic vampire in the first book, then they both lost each other physically and emotionally in the next (during which Bella decides to cliff dive and reckless motorcycling .. with JACOB) and you expect Edward not to be over protective? Bella has many faults and it seems Edward has had none in the past books, he is the epitome of ‘perfect’ in Bella’s and most reader’s eyes, and so now he has one fault by being a little over protective and everyone jumps on him for that…
Like, chill. I love Edward.
He can do no wrong. xD
I honestly think that it’s both. He really really wants to protect her, but he’s overprotective. But then again I have to remind myself that it’s not without good reason! Is it Bella after all. Anyone who can find a vampire boyfriend and then a werewolf best friend need someone to protect them, don’t you think?
i thinmk it’s hilarious that he took apart her car. i don’t know if he really went to far, because he certainly would have had a reason for it. can’t wait for the next chapter!
VERY good observations.
The first time I read it, I didn’t understand. I had to read it three times before my brain convinced itself that YES, Edward seriously just broke Bella’s truck. As for his reasons…you have it down – that is, both of them.
I think that Edward was just trying to protect Bella. Yes, it may have been a little DRAMATIC but, really? Have you seen the girl? She’s a walking disater waiting to happen half the time and the fact that Alice’s visions cut off when she’s going to see Jacob, who’s a WEREWOLF, I believe he has every right to be overprotective. He’s already almost lost her once, he doesn’t want that to happen again.
Your observations are dead on once again by the way lol XD
oh, and the blobfish made me full on throw my head back and laugh. So funny… and slightly distrubing..
Nah, he’s just trying to keep her safe. While he is going a bit too far, it’s all in the best intentions.
“…Edward has been overwhelmingly unselfish so far”
Maybe that’s why I wasn’t so annoyed with what Edward did. At least be selfish for once. ok that sounds weird. But I don’t think he went too far. It was for Bella’s own good, anyway….but thinking of it in Bella’s POV, I would have been irritated.
Oh, and by the w ay, I totally agree with megan ^_^ (comment #122)
I think it was a bit of both, like protection gone WAY overboard.
Edward is way too overprotective. He is also very controlling. I mean look at him-he takes parts out of her truck to stop her from leaving. He tries to force her to go see her mom. Everything they do is always his choice. She rarely ever decides what they do. He lies too. At the end of Twilight he promises he will stay with her, but then he leaves in New Moon. He tries to KILL HIMSELF when he thinks she was dead. Suicide is not romantic. I think Edward needs to stop being so controlling. It may be for her own good, but it is still wrong. And it hurts her. Edward not letting her see Jacob hurts her. If he’s trying to keep her from getting hurt, and yet that is hurting her, he should not be doing it.
i LOVED when he messed with her truck. i thought it was hilarious.
I personally think he went way too far with sabotaging Bella’s truck. It is pretty obvious he is jealous of Jacob, but since he has been so unselfish in the past, he can still claim what he does is for Bella’s protection. Nevertheless, it’s clear that he loves her regardless of what he does, and that’s a redeemable quality in my book!
P.S. Thanks for declining Britney Spears for this chapter…I would lose my mind if you had.
Well, i do think he did go overboard, but Edward is pretty pessimistic. And he’s just a little more since what happened since he left. His motives are legit, but he does go a bit overboard.
Ahaha, Britney Spears…
Okay, if I stepped into Edward’s mind for a sec to put aside the hate and loathing for Jacob, I’d see that I were dealing with a very young WEREWOLF. Somewhere in my past I’d see that werewolves are dangerous if they were IN control of their actions… So baby wolf + a defenseless Bella? I think Edward was trying to protect Bella more than just keep her away from Jacob.
I have to admit, I found Charlie amusing in this chapter. 🙂
“- Someone recommended Overprotected by Britney Spears for this chapter. In order to avoid my already imminent hanging, I declined.”
thank you very much kaleb. i might have also hung myself if you would have done that…
also, to the question, you know he must know something more than bella does. after all, he does have his sixth sense…
When i read that part i want speechless and i forgot to breath when Edward did that. I think He should calm down with Jacob becoming a werewolf because when he Edward was gone in New Moon Jacob hadn’t hurt Bella physically at all.
absolutely Edward went to far. We all know this. We also know that Edward is prone to over-reaction where Bella’s safety is concerned. We also forgive him just like Bella does because we know how important she is to him.
I love this book. I love it when they are talking in her kitchen and he takes her face in his hands and talks about how important she is to him. Men just don’t talk like that, but they need to. We need them to.
To answer your question, I am going to have to combine the two. I think that Edward went too far by trying to do his best to protect her. He needed to realize that she is capable of making her own decisions on what is right for her. He doesn’t give her enough credit in the beginning of this book.
I think Edward went a little overboard this time. I mean just because Bella hangs out with vampires doesn’t mean she doesn’t have free will. If she wants to talk to Jacob her best friend then I think she should.
But then again Edward knows what is best for her. Which makes me think of him as her father in some ways, not Charlie Swan but just a fatherly figure, trying too hard to MAKE her do the thing he wants her to do even though she desires to do something else. I mean what is a little chat with Jacob going to do?
yea, i think edward went WAYYYYYYYY too far when he sabotaged bella’s truck. it it were me there, i would have went to the jugular… with my nails… even though he was supposed to be my boyfriend… and his skin is like granite…
too bad for him though…
i’d dump him for emmett!!!
well, i know practically everyone will want to kill me, but.. i have to say it.. he DID went to far.. I mean.. i know.. alice culdn’t saw her future and stuff.. but… she culdn’t saw any danger arround forks either.. i mean.. we’ve all read the series.. Edward is not stupid… he.. as well as all of us at this point.. know that that heppens because.. the futures of bella and Jacob.. were going to be.. well.. conected or something.. Maybe AT FIRST.. he was really concerned about her.. but i think that.. even if he tries to denie it.. he is totally jealous of Jacob.. mainly because he KNOWS that Bella would be better of with Jacob.. Even wen is not actually whan she.. needs..
No Edward didn’t go far enough!!!! If he had done more like that then Bella… (the rest of this sentence has been censored because of spoilers.) Breath bekah. It’s okay. It worked out all right. Breathe in, breath out.
wow that last line was deep
yea he did go to far by sabotaging the truck. he needs to back off because Bella is going to get what she wants somehow.
Edward was being slightly obsurd; but he’s only doing what he thinks is right for Bella. I;m actually more angry at Bella for thinking about Jacob so much. Not that I dont think Jacob is a great guy. She’s saying she loves Edward but is also falling for Jacob. How can she keeping kidding herself like that?
I don’t think Edward went too far. Just look at the scenario from his point of view. Werewolves are their natural enemies, juvenile werewolves are especially dangerous, Alice had a frightening vision involving Bella, Edward already thought he lost Bella once. It’s not like he permanently damaged her truck. Plus, later on in the book he becomes the most understanding bf in the world. At this point, I don’t think he’s jealous of her relationship w/ Jake because I don’t think it has occurred to him that there’s anything more than friendship between them. For those who think Edward & Bella’s relationship is unhealthy, this is supposed to be an all-consuming true love kind of thing that most people have never experienced. Not to mention, the drama is always heightened because he’s a vamp and Bella’s life always seems to be in danger.
Everyone has brought up some really good points like.
A) If it were the other way around Jacob wouldn’t let Bella see Edward.
B) Edward does it all for her safety, which he makes clear, and he knows that crippling her truch would make her mad, so he gives her the option to not see him. I don’t think it was too overprotective because you know that Edward believes the risk Jacob is, he doesn’t complain about people like Angela and Mike. Of course my reasoning may just be because I favor Edward over Jacob. And people are right, have you noticed how Bella always forgives Jacob, no matter what he says about Edward and his family Bella forgives him, so she should forgive Edward for his overreaction, he overreacts a lot. I think its overreacting but not overprotection.
I would definatly kill for a few men as gentlemanly as Edward. It is a little condescending how he calls he ‘love’ all the time, but I kinda like it. I wish that my boyfriend would call me a name like that now and again.