The song for this chapter is All I Need by Within Temptation
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When a chapter in the Twilight Saga explicitly warns me ahead of time with the title “Too-Much-Information Alert” I can’t help but shudder. After all, if all the other Too-Much-Information scenes I have endured (namely: almost every scene on Isle Esme) were so light in comparison to one that actually needs a warning, what horrible, embarrassing thing lies ahead of me in the sixteenth chapter of Breaking Dawn?
It is nice to see that Leah is beginning to accept Jacob as the Alpha, because at first she appeared greatly against the idea and a bit forced into the new pack. But I have a feeling that all along, she was just doing it for a show of her own independence rather than really wanting to leave Jacob for someone else. It is one of those things about Jacob that I’ve come to realize — that you can’t really understand him on the surface, until you get to know him. I never understood him in the slightest until I got into his head. Similarly, Leah didn’t see him as a good leader until she was in his pack (and, quite literally, reading his thoughts just like us).
I’m also beginning to wonder if there are any romantic feelings from Leah for Jacob? I know she is still bitter about Sam imprinting on Emily. I get a feeling that she might be desperately searching for someone to fill the void that Sam left — even if not so much in a romantic way with Jacob, but just for someone to love her. It also seems that both she and Jacob are very much in the same position: both of them love someone who can never be theirs, who were never meant to be theirs, and are trying to fight against their feelings for what they know is best. If this was any normal romance novel, and Jacob wasn’t so sore over Bella, I would suspect something blossoming between these two, even if no more than a great friendship and understanding.
Still, it is truly hard to feel the pain that Leah is going through: feeling as if she is just a freak amongst her own people. It is like someone who is suddenly incapable of being loved — a werewolf who thinks that no one will ever imprint on her just because she isn’t like the other women. But like Jacob says, waiting for this sudden and unexpected ‘imprinting’ thing to happen isn’t her only hope of being loved. She could always simply turn back into a human, get a job, meet people, and have a relationship like every other normal person.
And finally, I get to the part where the name Renesmee is created. I remember when Breaking Dawn first came out, and I was immediately spoilered, within an hour of the release, by this name (Renesmee is pretty much one of the only things I was spoilered on in BD, fortunately). I remember it specifically because of all the forum posts and emails about being confused as to where it came from, and why Bella was so selfish as to not include all of her family member’s names at once, an example being Renesmettallie Carjalicphil:
Twicurls aside, I see this as a beautiful moment between Bella and Edward: perhaps one of the most beautiful since they first met in Twilight. Up until now, the child growing inside of Bella was seen as this monster — even Edward agreed with Jacob on this. But suddenly, with just that tiny spark of communication and recognition between the two parents and what is growing inside Bella, it is no longer a ‘thing’ but their child.
Someone told me in the comments, back when Edward was desperate to have Carlisle kill it, that a father does not bond with a baby until after he or she is born (I don’t know how true this is– I haven’t researched it any further that what I was told). Could this be advanced before the child is born, since Edward has made a connection with the baby in his mental, mind-reading way? Because it is almost as if he can really speak to his child suddenly, as if the baby has already been born. Because of the connection between Bella and Edward, and their unborn child, it is almost as if in one startling moment they have gone from a couple, into a family.
But now, I can’t even imagine the pain that Jacob is in. Again, can anyone even think of how hurtful and heartbreaking it would be to love someone so much, and then to have to watch her and her new husband and their child, happier than they have ever been? Wouldn’t you wish that at least she would feel some remorse for not being with you, for choosing someone else — that maybe she would give you the tiniest bit of consolation? But no — she happy, and content, without him. In any normal relationship, Jacob would be far away, and not have to suffer watching how happy the girl he loves is with someone else. He is literally tearing himself apart by staying there, and I don’t think any of us would hold it against him if he left and didn’t come back.
As for Jacob Black, this line in the beginning practically horrified me:
“I was only about a mile from where I’d left my clothes, so I phased back to human and walked.”
Whilst visiting Forks, I will remember not to venture into the places where Jacob is known to run completely naked for miles. Especially knowing those super-devoted fans who might try to recreate this scene.
QUESTION FOR THE COMMENTS: Would you rather Bella had a son and named him EJ, or a daughter and named her Renesmee?
——NOTES——
– Peter Facinelli has a huge bet going on with his friend — if he gets 500,000 Twitter followers by this Friday, he gets to keep his chair from TWILIGHT! Along those same lines, if I get 500,000 Twitter followers by this Friday, I will give Peter Facinelli MY chair (har har har).
– During that huge Facebook username craze last week, I managed to snag Facebook.com/KalebNation for my new Facebook page! If you haven’t added me, now you can do it with STYLE and PIZZAZZ!
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i dont see why bella want to name EDWARDS Child after Jacob. it sounds to much like ET im come on their child is not an Extra-Terrestrial, i like the name Renesmee!maybe if it is a she they can just shorten it as she gets odder and give her a nickname?
Ok, so , WOW. There are a few readers who don't really understand what the term “spoiler” means. I sure hope you read quickly, Kaleb. You might find out the ending before you get there!
Also, no one seems to understand Jacob at all here. I am totally Team Edward, but I'm not stupid. Jacob did want to “take” (for lack of a better word) Bella from Edward, but not just because he liked/loved her. He really felt like Edward would be the death of her. He wanted to keep her safe and away from the bloodsuckers. And, like Alba mentioned earlier, he knew he had ZERO chance of getting her to leave after Eclipse.
I am not particularly fond of the name Renesmee. I actually prefer Edward Jacob as a name, but for the sake of the story, Renesmee works better. It couldn't be a boy. Just take my word for that. You'll see why soon, Kaleb.
Son named EJ. I find the whole Renesmee thing a little ridiculous.
You're trying to annoy me with your update times, aren't you? You can be a real jerk sometimes, Kaleb.
As odd as Renesmee is, Edward Jacob would be worse. I know, fellow commenters, that you're all very fond of those names because of the characters, but just think for a moment. Bella wanted a little boy that looked exactly like Edward, which would live with them, be part of their family, etc. Eventually, you'd be left with two scarily similar looking Edwards. And then what excuse could they use? “Er… we're related, but not so close that having the same name would be weird, or anything.” It would be very awkward.
Still, I wish it had been a boy. Renesmee is such a Mary Sue.
Love the post Kaleb…love that it's on Twitter so I get it faster!! ๐
I'm happy with Renesmee. But, then again, I understand how SM pulled all the threads together. Not everyone likes it…I do!
I still GREATLY dislike the name Renesmee. I'm not a big fan of combining parents/hero's names in order to create one for a poor unsuspecting child. I've known a few horrible mish-mash names in my time. They're usually about a gajillion letters longs, and freaking mouthful's to say!
And I'm not the biggest fan of Bella naming her baby after Jacob. I don't think it's fair. Not on Edward or on Jacob.
Alba,
I just have to say that I loved the way you explained it and I agree. Not once did I ever think that it was disrespectful to Edward. I also agree that it would be more disrespectful to Jacob.
=)
Anyway, I really wished Bella had a boy. I like the nickname EJ. It's cute and not as complicated to say.
Lol to Steph! I had never thought about that, wow that would be incredibly awkward huh!
I'm not a fan of Edward Jacob. I mean seriously, how unoriginal can you get, naming your kid after your husband ๐ plus yeah, it is a bit disrespectful to Edward although at this point in their relationships I'm sure Edward feels nothing but gratitude for Jake. Still makes it a little wierd lol.
I don't mind Renesmee. Besides, I've heard wierder. Peaches Geldoff and Apples Martin anyone?
Update again soon Kaleb!!! I love your stuff ๐
Haha loved the intro of this post. You've had TMI moments throughout the whole series, I think you would be relieved to see the warning sign for once.
I thought the same thing about Leah and Jacob. I was guessing that at some point they would hook up. And maybe they were meant to be together, but because they were both werewolves the imprinting canceled out? I had a lot of theories about them two as a couple.
That moment with Edward, Bella, and EJ/Renesmee was adorable, but I wasn't so radically swayed like Edward was when I read this. I was leaning more towards accepting the “monster,” but still not convinced that it wasn't a demon child (which I have known many in my time lol).
When I first read this, I liked Renesmee better, even if it was really weird. This is a tiny bit spoilery, but since you already know the full story on Renesmee's name, you might as well see this. I guessed that EJ stood for Edward Jacob, and in like 3 chapters I found it that I was right. I didn't like that name, mostly because from Edward's POV, that most likely would've been painful for him. He can't escape Jacob, he is even present in their child (even though I like, understand, and appreciate Jacob after this whole middle section in his head, I am still staunchly Team Edward. Jacob did too much in the past (AKA Eclipse) for me to completely forgive him).
Woah- I know you love Jacob, but just because someone doesn't understand doesn't mean that they hate him. Let's not get into arguments about how well we as fans know the characters, please.
Sometimes it takes multiple read-throughs or a lot of thinking about a certain character, especially when said character is on the opposite team. People want to make someone the enemy. Jacob's an easy target. But you have to get past that to understand the way a character's mind works. Not everyone does, but more than that, for the majority of people, it takes a while.
I'm not a big fan of combining names, but I think that, regardless, Renesmee has a real pretty ring to it. I like it a lot.
EJ, on the other hand… meh, I'm just not that keen on initials as names, I guess. I also think it's unfair to both Edward AND Jacob. No matter how understanding Edward would be, and how justified she might be in naming the baby after Jacob, I still don't think it's fair on him. Nor is it fair on Jacob, because, as others have said, I really don't think he'd be all that pleased to have his name connected to the little monster. I think it would just be one more stab in the gut for him what with Bella's perma-happiness whenever he's around.
Normal or not normal, does that make any difference? The thing is, if he's named EJ, it won't change anything- it's still disrespectful to Edward. Okay, let's say that the whole world turned square. Let's say human's aren't humans; they're cats. It doesn't matter what humans are; Yes it's a book set up on a completely different world. I understand that. I understand that Bella and Jacob have a deep bond. Jacob was never Bella's boyfriend, but it was just like a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. Jacob protected Bella many times, but she's married now. Jacob is not a threat, but being a threat is not the point here. He rescued Bella countless of times and protected her- Does that really change anything? After everything that has happened, Bella is still very much in love and married to Edward. But she names her child the name of the guy she liked. Wouldn't that be rude and hurtful? I think you're not seeing Edward's side here. Imagine yourself in his shoes and see what it would feel like.
“Do you really think Edward would object to his kid having Jacob as the second name after everything Jacob has given to them?”
No, I don't think Edward would object,but only because he's too polite to do so. Edward didn't ask Jacob to help Bella. Even if he did, I don't see why there has to be something given in return, like say, name the child EJ.
“And Edward knows that too, so Jacob's love for her (and Bella's love in return) isn't a problem anymore.”
Isn't a problem anymore? Who decided that? Yes they're all fine now, and they're married. The thing is, the feelings still remain, and what irks me most is that Bella is making it harder for Edward by making her feelings for Jacob more apparent. It's her and Edward's child for goodness sake. Why mix someone else into the equation? More importantly, why do it so blatantly? I think Edward already knows how she feels, no need to include Jacob's name. It's basically not fair for him.
From my understanding, Jacob never did try to steal Bella, but it just seems so obvious that he so wants to, that is is what his intentions are. I can see it isn't his fault falling in love with Bella, but we know that he loves Bella so much and hates vampires that it seems like a perfectly natural assumption that he likes her, and since he does, he wants to steal her away.
“He has her and I love her, so I have to have her. Screw him” Of course he wouldn't be thinking that way, but the rough meaning of that would practically mean the same thing: I love her. I want her.
Isn't it obvious what follows?
Besides, I don't think he'd say that anyway, because like Edward, he'd be too nice to kill the guy she loves, so that wouldn't be his way of thinking. He thinks Edward is dangerous to Bella, but he knows Bella is happy and she loves Edward. Being friends with Bella and wanting her to be away from Edward is preventing Bella her happiness, despite how he continues to protect her, no matter how right it might be. So long as you're preventing the person you love's happiness, that can't be right.
It would be disrespectful to Jacob? Oh yes, I can see it would him because Bella didn't name her child his name, even when he already knows she can't be with him. I don't think it is even any form of disrespect at all. It won't even be a big deal if the child's name wasn't to do with his name, because he already accepted that Bella can't return his feelings.
So, back to topic, I'd choose Renesmee mainly because she seems really adorable and cute. ^^ I think it would be more fitting if it was a girl for some reason. Don't ask. >.<
It's Edward-Jacob, not Edward Junior!!
definatley a girl
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Of course Renesmee! This name is adorable! ^__^ Well, Edward Jacob would be really nice, too, but not EJ.
Uh, he was never her boyfriend, exactly. There was never a point in New Moon when she was over Edward enough to comtemplate dating again. While she and Jacob had feelings for each other, they never became official boyfriend and girlfriend ๐
That said, I agree with Kaleb. Not only would it be a huge blow to Edward, but must she really make this worse for Jacob, too? He says every time she signals she wants him around, it hurts him deeply and makes it harder to leave. She would have screwed him up SO much had she named her CHILD after him!
I'm glad it was a girl ๐ i love the name renesmee.
i don't know , just don't really like Edward Jacob. (:
Hey Kaleb i told you about that be on twitter. xp ( well not sure if i was the first one who told you , and if you really got it fom me.. )
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No offense, but I think it's you who aren't seeing Edward's side. To him, it wouldn't be disrespectful, because he knows what he owes Jacob, and he understands even better than Jacob and Bella the bond they share. It would have been a little hurtful, yes. But not disrespectful, because Edward knows and understands.
Besides, he actually likes Jacob, and he cares about him. And Jacob's, above all, Bella's best friend. A lot of couples name their kids after their best friends. Bella's married with Edward, and Jacob is out of the ecuation right now. She knows it, Edward knows it, Jacob knows it. Edward would understand and he wouldn't object, but not because he's polite. He wouldn't object because he knows the reasons, and he understands the situation they're in.
And yeah, the fact that their situation isn't normal does make a difference. It's not just a love triangle. As I said, the three of them are bonded beyond reason. Whatever they do, there will always be a consequence for one of them, a heartbraking consequence. They know that, and they have to adjust to that, they have to live with that and do everything with the other two in their minds. That's what makes this story so absolutely fascinating. The fact that anyone is at fault, and the fact that their bond is so strong that there's not a way out.
This is not a situation about a girl who's married and pregnant and names her kid after one of his ex-boyfriends. This isn't about jealousy. This isn't about normal feelings. This situation runs way deeper. It's much more complicated, much more difficult.
Oh, yes. It does make a difference. And a big one.
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“Do you really think Edward would object to his kid having Jacob as the second name after everything Jacob has given to them?”
I don't think Edward would object to the name EJ because as we see in New Moon Edward tells Jacob that he owes Jacob for the rest of his existence. I think Edward would see it as the ultimate repayment.
“And Edward knows that too, so Jacob's love for her (and Bella's love in return) isn't a problem anymore.”
Also in New Moon (sorry I just revamped this one last week) Bella always says she wishes that Jake was her brother so she could have a claim on him. I think that while there was always the possibility, while Edward was away, of their relationship turining to “boyfriend/girlfriend love” that for Bella it was always sibling-esq.
It's not that I love Jacob. It's not about what I like. It's just so unfair that people treat Jacob like that when he hasn't done anything wrong. Just fall in love.
He shouldn't be the easy target. The enemy is the enemy. Jacob is one of the good guys. And he's done SO MUCH for Bella and Edward.
This is about being fair.
But yeah, my comment was too harsh, you're right. I apologize to everyone. Maybe the fact that I wrote it when I should have been sleeping had something to do with the way I said things. lol
Greetings from Spain!
I think I like EJ better. But man … a girl is also sweet. Oo
I was very happy with bella having a girl! I mean, can't she imagine how hurt edward was after that EJ thing.
I could have hit her! I mean first, I was like “ooh, edward junior.” but then I got it and was just like “Why bella, whyyy?”
No, I think Renesmee is the most perfect name there is. I agree with Stephenie's explanation. Nessie's pretty rare–a human/vampire baby!–so you can't just name her some old, overused, boring name like……Elizabeth. (Haha, funny I should say that's boring; that's my middle name) You have to have a unique name.
Maybe it's my upbringing, but I, like my mom, love rare names. I have never, since I was born, seen the point in naming your child a name that you KNOW a JILLION other people have! Thus, my name's Alexi (it was rare in '95, apparently), and my siblings' names are also rare.
Plus, when you get to know her, Nessie is adorable!! Read ahead and you see that she's a darling little girl. I would never want Bella to have a boy. Aren't there enough men in her life already? ๐
*POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT–YOU MIGHT WANNA SKIP THIS PART CUZ YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT!!!*
As for the Leah/Jacob thing, I thought they were a couple, too…..until What Happened in That Final Chapter, hehehe. At the beginning, I wanted Leah and Jake to be together, only cuz I couldn't see any other alternative…… but what Stephenie wrote for Jake was BRILLIANT. Seriously, it's not like that. It even said so in Eclipse! I support it, 100%.
i think it would of been better if they had a son, so that there would be more beautiful edwards in the world ๐
I'm happy about Bella's and Edward's baby being a girl, but the name sucks. When I read it the first time I really started hoping it would be a big fat joke. I also don't see Bella's character giving her child such a strange name. She was always a really straight-forward character and her mother even called her an old soul. I think it would have fitted better by choosing a more traditional name. Nevertheless, I can't change it and respect S. Meyers decision.
EJ — I don't get this American trend. Why do people call their people based on the first letters? I personally think it is silly. Moreover, the fact that Jacob is included in the name is almost hilarious. I mean – no matter if best friend or not – Jacob tried to ruin their relationship (I'm not going to start if that is okay) and split them up! And then she names her newborn after him??! In real life, I believe Jacob AND Edward would be pissed about that choice. The image of a little Edward is naturally really nice, but as said, I'm happy with a girl (as happy as I can be that a baby needs to be in the saga…).
I think that it was Bella's way of having a piece of Jacob remain with her after she has the baby, because she knew that once she became a vampire, Jacob would not stick around anymore (in theory) and it's just a way for her to not be lost forever. It's sort of like keeping that one thing from each relationship that meant something–it's not that you're wishing you still had it, but you acknowledge that it has changed you.
She did.
I wish it was a boy and named Edward Junior. That is so cute. I am mad with what happens between Renesmee and Jacob, so I wanted their child to be a guy.
I also think that Edward Jacob is very disrespectful to Edward and I dont think it sounds good together anyway.
I love that twiCurls video!! I love watching their vids! Oh, random, but that “style” and pizzazz” thing at the end was so funny.
Now on to the question:
You know, I like that Bella is having a girl. I'm not too crazy about the name, but I do think it's better than having a boy. I think since it is a girl, Edward will tend to protect her more. He sees now that Bella isn't the only girl in his happy world anymore. I was happy when Edward found out he could read Renesmee's thoughts. I have to say that I totally did not even like the name EJ. I forgot, isn't it Edward and Jacob's initials…I haven't read that book in a while…anyways, NO! I was pretty shocked to see that Stephenie came up with that name. She came up with really good names up till Renesmee.
forks having naked people? haha sweet.
I am SO GLAD that Bella had a girl. I feel for Jacob, but I'm sorry-it would have been really weird/inapproppriate to name her son Edward Jacob. I can just imagine my husband's face if I told him we were going to name our first born after him AND my ex, who is still hanging around as in love with me as ever and I am still friendsly with.(Um, I don't really have anyone like that!) Thanks for the map, I would also want to steer clear of places with roaming naked people!
Then what the Hale was he doing at the wedding?
I agree. It would've been too much for Jacob. And he hates this baby. It wouldn't be exactly fair to either of the guys.
I have a little cousin named EJ…so hearing edward and bella's kid named that would be kinda strange for me.
On the other hand…Renesmee is such a completely ridiculous name. When I first saw it I was kinda wondering if somebody had accidentally laced Bella's earlier cup o'blood with some alcohol. Renesmee sounds like the drunken babble of a frat boy. That was the point where I really and truly thought that the intensity of carrying a mixed-species child had driven Bella insane. But even as much as I hated the girl's name…I loved the girl and after I while you just can't imagine her with any other name.
I can't stand people naming their children after other people, so I can't say that I'm commenting from a knowledgable place. But I assume she is doing it to honor Jacob, to give honor to the two most important people in her life. I think Edward would be fine with it. I don't think Jacob would like it. I do not think it is being disrespectful to Edward, because the relationship between the three of them is much more than “old boyfriend” or even “spurned lover”, Edward knows that Jacob wants what's best for her, they just have different opinions of what it is.
I prefer the boy because frankly the name “reneesmee” is painful, and I agree, quite forced, and IMO, a writer's cop-out with trying to come up with a perfect, and unique name for a perfect and unique child. When I read that I was so dissappointed, Stephenie could have done so much better. I have never understood not giving a child it's own unique name, as it is its own unique person, but of the two, I would pick Edward since at least it has a small semblance of tradition.
I also think the scene with Edward hearing the baby is one of the most touching in the entire series and just replayed it my head over and over. So beautiful.
Wow. I had never looked at it like that. Thank you for your perspective!
I agree. Renesmee is a completely ridiculous name. But it's better than Edward Jacob. I just wish that she could've came up with a better name.
I kinda saw it as just a way for Jacob to be happy. What Happened in That Final Chapter seemed like just a way to tie up some loose ends. It wasn't what I (nor Spock) would call logical.
I really, really don't like the name Renesmee. I think that is just dumb. So, out of those choices, I would have preferred EJ.
and to those of you saying it isn't fair of Bella to name her child after Jacob, remember that Edward already knows how she feels, and know she has feelings for Jacob, but he also knows that she chose him!! So I don't think it would hurt him too badly.
AND KALEB, see, you and Jacob can relate to each other! He doesn't like the too much information stuff either (don't you just LOVE his chapter titles? they are so jake!) I'm sure he wouldn't have been too happy about Island Esme, either.
Neither was I. And it wasn't because I'm team Jake, it was because I don't like TMI either.
And on a side note, it's tough for me to see 'TMI' and think of it as 'too much info' because now whenever I see it i think of The Mortal Instruments, best books in the world, WOOOO!!
I would think that Bella should have….well I really dont know how to explain this without spoiling it for you. I guess I'll try. I think that the baby should have both names. One could be the middle name, and the other could be the first name! So what if it is a girl? Look at my name! My name is Hunter AND I'M A GIRL!!!!!! Just make EJ the middle name. come on guys, be a little open-minded.
OK here's my only problem with naming her son Edward Jacob. When I first read this, it reminded me of a movie I'd seen called First Sunday. For those who haven't seen it, one of the main character's names is LeeJohn. When asked about his odd name, he replied that his mom had two boyfriends and didn't know which was his father, so she named him after both of them. I don't think that's what Bella was going for. That said, I am also not a fan of Renesmee, I'd personally go with Renesmee's middle name as her first.
This is one of my favorite scenes in the whole series. It really is a beautiful scene. I have a confession to make. When I discovered a good portion of the book was going to be told from Jacobs POV, I primarily skimmed through it to see if it was any good, and i happened upon that scene. And I read it. And i was mush. And i just HAD to read Jacob, JUST to get to that scene. I was spoiled, i know. But still. And Jacob's pov ended up being really good.
So anyway, while most of my friends were hating on Nessie cuz of their first impression of her, i was like, “But I love Nessie!” because I always knew, the entire time, how good she is, and how she made Bella and Edward a family. I love Daddy Edward too!
I actually like Leah after Breaking Dawn. At first I was like, “Ok, this chick's a B****h” but after reading breaking dawn, i was like, “huh, she's actually a pretty good gal.” But no, leah and jacob don't have a love affair at all. You'll see why. But it more of becomes a more-than-strong companionship and understanding.
Looking forward to your next update!
First of all about Jake and Leah, I was thinking the same thing. It seemed like something was happening there. And now about the question, I'm not really sure. I think I would have liked EJ better, espicially because that REALLY would have changed all the stuff that's going to start happening soon, most of which I didn't like.
lol, very true, I didn't think about the fact that you may have been answering as if you didn't know what happened.
If what happens, didn't happen, though, she would have never felt the love she did for Jacob anyway. Friend/family feeling = Bella's true feelings for Jacob.. Love feelings = CENSORCENSORCENSOR lol ๐
I think before knowing that, it is disrespectful, but after knowing that, I don't see it that way because it was never truly BELLA who felt that way.. it was 'something' else causing the triangle.
Oh how I hate not being able to speak freely lol. I know Kaleb has avoided the spoilers this long and I doubt it'll be me to bring it, but I don't want to take the chance ๐
Thanks, btw ๐
what is it about Renesmee. It is original and cute. Carlie is horrible for a first name. There are so much Carlie's. Why should we copie names just because a original name are not done because we are not used to those.
Besides it is not okay for Bella to used EJ for a boy. Edward would give in al though it shal hurt him. And Jacob wouldn't not have wanted it, because for him it is a monster child.
WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT????? I have NO clue what nickname you are talking about but your kind of spoiling the book for me. (i am trying to read slowly because my dad hates taking me to the book store where i like to spend hours rather than minutes).
Now, I like the name Renesmee and I don't really like the name EJ. But I think that maybe the baby will end up being Renesmee because (other than quite a few comments) Bella thinks that she is going to have a boy, and it seems like she has been wrong a lot lately. Just my guess.
Deffinatley Renesmee. What really bothers me about EJ is that…its rude. Not only to Jacob to know that the woman he loves is now using his name on a child of the man he hates with a passion but even more so to Edward. Everyday of his life he would see his son and it would be a reminder, she loved him enough to name him after that dog. OUCH! Everyday reminders of those hurtful years when the woman he loved was caught between two men. OUCH again!
And personally Jacob did deserve someone and it explains his comment to Quil in the begining of the book. If you're wondering about that read the part with Quil and Claire.
It also is kinda wierd how some people don't like the fact that Bella has a kid but I love it!! It makes the world she lives in more real and makes her and Edward's relationship stronger in a way.
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Well…I kind of like the name Renesmee…really! Itยดs weird…mainly for me…a brazilian..but when you pronounce it…itยดs kind of musical…ยด
Itยดs sooooo much better than EJ…
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